The funny thing is that there's an IMG announcement about it, yet nothing on Kishonti's website
Samsung Orion SoC - dual-core A9 + "5 times the 3D graphics performance"
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The funny thing is that there's an IMG announcement about it, yet nothing on Kishonti's website
More complexity, new effects:
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It appears Samsung is still targetting the S5PC110 (hummingbird) Soc at new designs, they have just renamed it to the Exynos 3110.
http://www.samsung.com/global/busin...brochures/downloads/systemlsi/Exynos_3110.pdf
Don't think I see any differences in there over the old S5PC110 specs. Still says 1Ghz, even though it has been implemented many months ago at 1.2Ghz.
http://www.samsung.com/global/busin...brochures/downloads/systemlsi/Exynos_3110.pdf
Don't think I see any differences in there over the old S5PC110 specs. Still says 1Ghz, even though it has been implemented many months ago at 1.2Ghz.
I've seen some websites refer to the Wave 3 as having a "single core" 1.4Ghz Exynos, which would point to an upclocked hummingbird, but the websites might just have it wrong. the other 2 wave phones are 832Mhz, and I think they are qualcomm.
If the 832 MHz pair turn out to be Qualcomm, the Wave 3 with its 1.4 GHz single core will be a Scorpion, too.
Those slots are just the kind of design wins that Samsung Semi can't afford to lose too often. Selling to phone makers not named Samsung will be hard enough for them in such a competitive market.
Those slots are just the kind of design wins that Samsung Semi can't afford to lose too often. Selling to phone makers not named Samsung will be hard enough for them in such a competitive market.
There are multiple processors by different companies clocked at 832MHz, but I'd be willing to bet that it's a Broadcom BCM21553. They didn't disclose clock speeds at launch but it's confirmed in their yearly brochure: http://www.broadcom.com/docs/press/product_brochure.pdf
And look closely, there's a twist: it's not on 65nm or 55nm: it's on 60nm! That's a quarter-node process. It seems those are going back in vogue at TSMC; Heck, I'm even a bit surprised there's no 36nm AFAIK. So why go for a quarter-node when the half-node (55nm) is available and mature? Mostly because of analogue and RF (Broadcom does integrate the audio codec among other things). CSR's latest Bluetooth chips are on 85nm.
Altera's also using 60nm apparently and there's a little known historical quarter-node that achieved very high volumes: TSMC(?) 140nm, used by NVIDIA for NV33 (or possibly one of multiple NV33s) which was a shrink of the 150nm NV34. That chip alone represented a large majority of NVIDIA's shipments in the second half of the NV3x era (until the NV4x derivatives fully ramped up, and even then NV33 was cheaper than the cheapest of them so it remained very high volume).
Anyhow, enough history lessons! As for Wave 3, the 14.4Mbps baseband does hint at Qualcomm since if there was a discrete application processors and it was HSPA-only, then I'd expect Samsung to use an Infineon baseband. Unless maybe the XMM6260 has a 14.4Mbps SKU... So yeah, we'll need a proper test to know for sure.
And look closely, there's a twist: it's not on 65nm or 55nm: it's on 60nm! That's a quarter-node process. It seems those are going back in vogue at TSMC; Heck, I'm even a bit surprised there's no 36nm AFAIK. So why go for a quarter-node when the half-node (55nm) is available and mature? Mostly because of analogue and RF (Broadcom does integrate the audio codec among other things). CSR's latest Bluetooth chips are on 85nm.
Altera's also using 60nm apparently and there's a little known historical quarter-node that achieved very high volumes: TSMC(?) 140nm, used by NVIDIA for NV33 (or possibly one of multiple NV33s) which was a shrink of the 150nm NV34. That chip alone represented a large majority of NVIDIA's shipments in the second half of the NV3x era (until the NV4x derivatives fully ramped up, and even then NV33 was cheaper than the cheapest of them so it remained very high volume).
Anyhow, enough history lessons! As for Wave 3, the 14.4Mbps baseband does hint at Qualcomm since if there was a discrete application processors and it was HSPA-only, then I'd expect Samsung to use an Infineon baseband. Unless maybe the XMM6260 has a 14.4Mbps SKU... So yeah, we'll need a proper test to know for sure.
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I don't know if this was a known fact, but the Galaxy Tab 7.7 has a 1.4GHz Exynos.
The preview claims it's substantially snappier than Tegra 2 tablets on Honeycomb 3.2.
Since it handles a much higher resolution than Galaxy S2, I wonder if the GPU was upclocked too (it would make sense, since all drawing is made on the GPU in 3.2).
I'm afraid of seeing that 7.7" SAMOLED Plus screen in front of me. I may get crazy enough to buy it on the spot.
The preview claims it's substantially snappier than Tegra 2 tablets on Honeycomb 3.2.
Since it handles a much higher resolution than Galaxy S2, I wonder if the GPU was upclocked too (it would make sense, since all drawing is made on the GPU in 3.2).
I'm afraid of seeing that 7.7" SAMOLED Plus screen in front of me. I may get crazy enough to buy it on the spot.
I think the Mali400MP4 is clocked at 275MHz; that gives 1.1 GTexels/s fill-rate for 4 TMUs. If the GPU should be clocked higher it'll have even more. ULP/GF-T20 should be at 666 MTexels/s (no pun intended LOL).
"Snappier" in the given case is a combination of increased CPU frequency and probably increased GPU frequency; 40% higher frequency compared to Tegra2 is a significant leap.
Despite the legal hurdles with courts in a couple of spots, did Samsung actually manufacture a high sum or did they stay low in volumes on purpose for the time being? I don't know how many tablets Samsung has sold after their original tab (do you have a link maybe?), but if I were to believe analyst claims of the past the Samsung/T2 deal/order should have weighed between $200 and 300M.
Unfortunately with a quite a few mistakes that stick out. In any case the SGS2 seems to be selling like hot cakes and it's hardly a surprise considering its price/performance ratio. It'll be even more interesting to see how sales figures will look like once it takes off in the US.
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