Revolution specs leaked?

[Mordecaii]

But you're ignoring the simple fact that heat issues will not allow this to be feasible... Think of it this way... Do you honestly expect a Pentium-M chip to be as powerful as the absolute top of the line CPU for desktops? (The correct answer is no, and if you argue this then I'm going to stop trying to convince you otherwise). The PS3, which has had even more time spent on R&D for its CELL than Nintendo has had on its "Hollywood" (Again, I hope you don't argue this), is about twice as powerful as the XBOX 360 in terms of CPU performance for rated GFLOP/s, but most people agree that in reality they are probably even closer in performance. The thing is, Sony/IBM/Toshiba spent Millions (or was it a couple billion?) on this project, something which Nintendo would not do. The CELL and RSX are going into a larger box, with what we can assume will be a good cooling system. Also, when you look at Laptops (the same place you find Pentium-M's), they have nowhere near as powerful of a graphics solution as a Desktop. The Gamecube is in fact larger than the Revolution, but more importantly it was deeper which allowed for a decent cooling solution. If the Revolution is indeed only 3 DVD cases tall/wide (whatever you wanna call it), there won't be space to implement a cooling system akin to the 360 or PS3. Now, with the extra R&D time they have had, I'm sure that they can create something more powerful than what is currently available than today, but I don't see how you think that the Revolution can stack up against systems that will require some pretty serious cooling. It may come somewhat close, but not on par with. Also, 65 nm fabrication will be started next year but the real question is, will it have high enough yields for Nintendo to go with that technology initially? Sony decided not to use it for this reason.

 

[SoVos20]

In the END it is comfirmed that Nintendo will spend MORE money on R&D for its GPU then M$ did for Xbox360 GPU and nintendo has the better team. You can't ingnore the extra time and money going into Revolution over Xbox360.

I don't think ATI would purposefully make one GPU design better than the other for its 2 clients (MS and Nintendo). If anything, I would suspect they'd give more to MS since it's doubtful the Revolution will sell in as large a numbers as the X360.

I didn't say they would intentionally I said Nintendo is spending more time and money on R&D than M$ on its GPU.

 

[SoVos20]

But you're ignoring the simple fact that heat issues will not allow this to be feasible... Think of it this way... Do you honestly expect a Pentium-M chip to be as powerful as the absolute top of the line CPU for desktops? (The correct answer is no, and if you argue this then I'm going to stop trying to convince you otherwise). The PS3, which has had even more time spent on R&D for its CELL than Nintendo has had on its "Hollywood" (Again, I hope you don't argue this), is about twice as powerful as the XBOX 360 in terms of CPU performance for rated GFLOP/s, but most people agree that in reality they are probably even closer in performance. The thing is, Sony/IBM/Toshiba spent Millions (or was it a couple billion?) on this project, something which Nintendo would not do. The CELL and RSX are going into a larger box, with what we can assume will be a good cooling system. Also, when you look at Laptops (the same place you find Pentium-M's), they have nowhere near as powerful of a graphics solution as a Desktop. The Gamecube is in fact larger than the Revolution, but more importantly it was deeper which allowed for a decent cooling solution. If the Revolution is indeed only 3 DVD cases tall/wide (whatever you wanna call it), there won't be space to implement a cooling system akin to the 360 or PS3. Now, with the extra R&D time they have had, I'm sure that they can create something more powerful than what is currently available than today, but I don't see how you think that the Revolution can stack up against systems that will require some pretty serious cooling. It may come somewhat close, but not on par with. Also, 65 nm fabrication will be started next year but the real question is, will it have high enough yields for Nintendo to go with that technology initially? Sony decided not to use it for this reason.

You compleatly ignore the fact that PS3 is large due to its very large GPU, which will spend less than half of the time in R&D as Revolution GPU.

 

[SsP45]

You compleatly ignore the fact that PS3 is large due to its very large GPU, which will spend less than half of the time in R&D as Revolution GPU.

How small is the Revolution's GPU then? I thought it was supposed to have 2?

 

[SoVos20]

Research for Revolution GPU started atleast a year before Xbox and it will end around 1 year after. That is 2 Years more.

May I ask where you're getting these numbers?

You can look on the internet and find out. Nintendo and ATI started research on Revolution GPU before GC was even shipped.

 

[SoVos20]

You compleatly ignore the fact that PS3 is large due to its very large GPU, which will spend less than half of the time in R&D as Revolution GPU.

How small is the Revolution's GPU then? I thought it was supposed to have 2?

No one knows how small. You are the one who seems to know for a FACT that it won't be as powerfull. I am saying you don't know how powerfull it will be. You tell me how big or small since you insist you know for a FACT it will be weaker.