Radeon 9800 Pro preview

Ante P said:
http://www.nordichardware.com/reviews/graphiccard/2003/Radeon9800Pro/

I'm not much of a "techie" person, still I guess some of you might be interested. :)

oh we surely have a winner here. Some comments from the author seemed alittle off though
 
Pretty much delivered what I expected...though I was hoping for just a little bit more oomph over the 9700. Then again, the 9700 is _already_ fast, eh?

I would possibly entertain a 256MB card _if_ ATI allowed more AA samples; otherwise, I don't see any point, other than the higher memory frequency.

I'm looking forward to reading Anand's R350 preview...quite simply, I would like to hear his thoughts on ATI's offering(s) vs. nVidia @ this point in time. Last time, it was "delivered as promised." This time, I'm thinking it might be something like, "nVidia lost the performance race quite some time ago, and it doesn't look like they will get it back anytime soon."
 
i do have a few minor complaints. in q3 and ut2003 i didn't see what demos you were useing for benchmarking, that would be nice to know. also, i think 3dmark scores should be shown in detal; i know it means more complicated graphs but the overall score only tells part of the story while there is much more information to be had from looking at indivudal test scores.


nitpicky complaints aside, damn good review Ante P. :)
 
According to HardoOCP:
The R300 supports 96bit FP (Floating Point) precision, while the GeForceFX supports up to 128bit FP precision. The 9800 Pro now supports 128bit, 64bit, and 32bit FP pixel precision.
Does this mean fp32 precision per component in the fragment color processor?
 
tEd said:
oh we surely have a winner here. Some comments from the author seemed alittle off though

what comments would those be
keep in mind tough that I'm rather looking at this from a consumers perspective

as I said in the first post I'm not a "techie" :)
 
kyleb said:
i do have a few minor complaints. in q3 and ut2003 i didn't see what demos you were useing for benchmarking, that would be nice to know. also, i think 3dmark scores should be shown in detal; i know it means more complicated graphs but the overall score only tells part of the story while there is much more information to be had from looking at indivudal test scores.


nitpicky complaints aside, damn good review Ante P. :)

I run DM-Antalus in UT2003 in flyby mode
and "four" in Q3

it's mentioned in the review even ;)

I have a follow up article on the way with SPECviewperf and in depth 3dmark 03 and 2001 tests as well as some other stuff that I din't fit into this part

thanks for the compliment, I did all the work in 30 hours straight.. so I know it ain't perfect
take the UT 4x AA scores for an example ;)
I just realized what I just had done by the time I heard that sound of trash can emptying hehe
 
Luminescent said:
According to HardoOCP:
The R300 supports 96bit FP (Floating Point) precision, while the GeForceFX supports up to 128bit FP precision. The 9800 Pro now supports 128bit, 64bit, and 32bit FP pixel precision.
Does this mean fp32 precision per component in the fragment color processor?

whaaa, that seems very strange
Ati was actually bragging about the benefits of having 24 bits inetad of 32 or 16, their presentation also mentions this and they refer to some carmack quotes etc.

perhaps [H] are off their rocker
hehe ok perhaps not, but then ATi PR really screwed up this time
 
For those wanting more ooomph
remember this wasnt the DDR2 version reviewed and that ones clockspeed isnt confirmed :) 400 would be nice
 
Holy Bejeebers

429Mhz core overclock? I would have not believed it.
And that being limited by the software too.
And no dustbuster.


I don't know what small animals ATI sacrificed when they made the R3XX chips, but it sure worked.

Oh yeah Toms review is up too.[/url]
 
That's nothing...Did you see the numbers that HardOCP achieved? Something like 460 MHz (core), and something like 800 MHz (memory)...

I mean...the 9700 is already fast enough...the R350 even more so...overclocking it is just sick :)
 
Typedef Enum said:
That's nothing...Did you see the numbers that HardOCP achieved? Something like 460 MHz (core), and something like 800 MHz (memory)...

I mean...the 9700 is already fast enough...the R350 even more so...overclocking it is just sick :)

it seems as if I got an older board than all the other ppl ;)

mine was only clocked to 378/675 MHz and it didn't overclock all that well

nothing is fast enough when you want to play all games at 1600x1200 with 16x Quality AF and 6x AA though :D
 
I'm going to have to invest in a cheap ATI PCI card in order to drive all of my LCD's...I'm sold on the R350 (heck, I was sold on it a long time ago).
 
Ante P said:
tEd said:
oh we surely have a winner here. Some comments from the author seemed alittle off though

what comments would those be
keep in mind tough that I'm rather looking at this from a consumers perspective

as I said in the first post I'm not a "techie" :)

nothing major really , just for instance "still only 6x" thingy was alittle confusing , considering there is nothing comparable in quality to date
 
Ante P said:
I run DM-Antalus in UT2003 in flyby mode
and "four" in Q3

it's mentioned in the review even ;)

doh, i do see i overlooked the mention of the demo for q3, i didn't see any mention for ut2k3 but i will take your word for it as i am severly dyslectic so i am not exactly the best preson for the job there. ;)
 
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