Would you call that thermal clock throttling?kyleb said:well sure if we want to go off into fantasy world and exclude 2d mode from the definition of "normal operation"; then you are correct. do you want a cookie Xmas?
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Would you call that thermal clock throttling?kyleb said:well sure if we want to go off into fantasy world and exclude 2d mode from the definition of "normal operation"; then you are correct. do you want a cookie Xmas?
Yes it does downclock in 2D mode. But the reason I compared it to P4 was that it downclocks when *overheating*.kyleb said:no but the nv3x does downclock itself during normal operation, unlike the p4. hence our conversation has completed a full circle. :?
Xmas said:Try to apply the same logic to Pentium 4 overheat protection.
kyleb said:but the p4 never uses that in normal operation, you have to take the heatsink off or something first.
Come on, Kyle. The clock throttling was clearly devised as a way to reduce the noise of the FX 5800 Ultra. That it is included as a feature in the entire FX line should be considered a blessing, not a curse.kyleb said:wtf Xmas, this is absolutely absurd! 2d clock throttling damn well is relevant because that is what WaltC was asking about in the first place. then came the proposal that the 2d throttling could be indicative of the chip not being completely stable if kept permanently at 3dspeeds. to this you responded:
I think you really need to read this thread again.kyleb said:wtf Xmas, this is absolutely absurd! 2d clock throttling damn well is relevant because that is what WaltC was asking about in the first place. then came the proposal that the 2d throttling could be indicative of the chip not being completely stable if kept permanently at 3dspeeds. to this you responded:
Xmas said:Try to apply the same logic to Pentium 4 overheat protection.
...to which i replided:
kyleb said:but the p4 never uses that in normal operation, you have to take the heatsink off or something first.
...and then you went off into your own world from there which there is no point in rehashing as that was all down hill. so is there anything clicking yet for you or is someone going to have to draw out a flow chart?
RussSchultz said:Just so we're all talking about the same thing:
1) The chip down clocks and fan powers off when running 2d stuff.
2) This doesn't indicate that there's a problem running at speed
3) Quiet is a good thing
Did I miss anything? no? Good. Now lets end the discussion.
I compared NV3x and P4 specifically with regard to thermal clock throttling. So why is that comparison invalid?kyleb said:ok, so now you say thermal clock throttling is relevant to the discussion and the p4 is "another chip" that uses it; but the p4 doesn't downclock while idling so that makes me wrong when i was the one saying that exact fact is what makes the comparison invalid. wtf