http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3137013
Hmmm ... how long does my dual G5 need to convert my divx movies?
Fredi
Hmmm ... how long does my dual G5 need to convert my divx movies?
Fredi
PSP Memory Stick -> JPEG, MP3, ATRAC3 & MPEG-4
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The Gamespot story on this topic noted that there is now an "infrastructure" wireless mode for connecting to the Internet from Hot Spots and an "ad hoc" wireless mode for playing games with others nearby.
But so far, no software that appears to use the "infrastructure" wireless mode.
So the burden seems to be on developers to make online games or even a browser. Or other Internet applications for instance to download media directly to the PSP.
But so far, no software that appears to use the "infrastructure" wireless mode.
So the burden seems to be on developers to make online games or even a browser. Or other Internet applications for instance to download media directly to the PSP.
Cryect said:
Because now people will just buy DVDs then rip/encode them to MPEG4 and use a MS to watch movies on the go. Why would they want to buy a UMD movie if they can buy the DVD and rip/encode it for portable use while at the same time be able to watch the DVD on the bigscreen? BTW this has been done on GBA for years. By allowing MPEG4 videoclips to be watched from MS, they just killed UMD.
You... um... got some size and quality comparisons to run for feature length films there, bunky? Because I gots to say that Memory Sticks can get pretty expensive if you want a nice, full-size, full-quality video there... And heaven help you if you want TWO! Or--like--any features as opposed to simply playing the movie?
UMD's viability will rely on what it always has--price. The ability for people to rip DVD's hasn't hit DVD sales, and despite the proliferation of free MP3's on a variety of mediums for ages, online music vendors are still able to tap a booming market--at not even a particularly compelling price point in most cases.
It'll take a good number of years for MS to become inconsequential enough that most people would pick up goodly number of them or a really large capacity one, and at that point UMD will have either established itself as viable--or established itself as something like pre-recorded MD's. (Meaning sold through their site, never seen in stores, and for the most part unknown and unremarkable.) And on that point, they have plenty of work to do.
Or--like--any features as opposed to simply playing the movie?UMD's viability will rely on what it always has--price. The ability for people to rip DVD's hasn't hit DVD sales, and despite the proliferation of free MP3's on a variety of mediums for ages, online music vendors are still able to tap a booming market--at not even a particularly compelling price point in most cases.
It'll take a good number of years for MS to become inconsequential enough that most people would pick up goodly number of them or a really large capacity one, and at that point UMD will have either established itself as viable--or established itself as something like pre-recorded MD's. (Meaning sold through their site, never seen in stores, and for the most part unknown and unremarkable.) And on that point, they have plenty of work to do.
hey69 said:you don't convert mpeg4's you download them
I think you'd want to re-scale them buddy, as there's no point in playing hi-res movies on the PSP's relatively small screen. It would just waste power (by decoding invisible pixels) and storage space.
Guden Oden said:hey69 said:you don't convert mpeg4's you download them
I think you'd want to re-scale them buddy, as there's no point in playing hi-res movies on the PSP's relatively small screen. It would just waste power (by decoding invisible pixels) and storage space.
There will be "PSP" releases made with "scene" specs the moment the PSP is real.
256/512/1024 MB sized with exact resolution and aspect ratio.
On a tiny little screen, quality using MPEG4 compression at that low resolution is hardly going to require loads of space. Video quality is HARDLY going to be a priority for people desparate to watch movies on that little screen. Besides if you're going to be using PSP for MP3s you're going to be buying pretty large MS anyway.
And you don't know what UMD pricing structure will be like.
Your logic is flawed anyway including your assumptions . DVD piracy DOES affect DVD sales contrary to what YOU believe. The reason why YOU don't notice is due to the fact MILLIONS of DVDs are being sold that unfortunately mask DVD piracy percentages, same with CDs though CDs sales ARE slowing after the proliferation of MP3s since MP3 playback hardware can be found everywhere.
Regardless it's moot since the point wasn't about DVD ripping/DVD sales or CD ripping/CD sales. It's about the fact nobody wants to buy UMD movies that cannot be watched on television like the way DVD allows. Given a choice consumers WILL buy the DVD version of the movie and if they find it necessary to play movies on their PSPs, they will rip them from the DVDs. They're not going to buy UMD movies AND DVD movies, except maybe a handful with money to burn thus strengthening my argument.
I'll just quote myself:
Besides if you're going to be using PSP for MP3s you're going to be buying pretty large MS anyway...
Ty said:
The average buyer will just skip this dumb UMD movie idea and continue buying DVDs that can be watched on tv or on portable DVD players. Seen the price of portable DVD players lately? Seen the screen sizes? Seen the number of models available? You think UMD movies have a realistic chance of picking up? Prerecorded UMD movies is DOA just like prerecorded MD music.
WOW, here we go again, afterall it is a Sony product
It is going to be interesting what Sony plans to do with UMD as a movie format since it does seem as a freebie they got when they developed the PSP. Sony DVD's where they package a UMD? Early releases on UMD? Super cheap UMDs? Unless they do something special i doubt it's going to be big.
Which is why--GUESS WHAT--I said it depends on it! As opposed to, say, broad-sweeping statements with no analysis?PC-Engine said:And you don't know what UMD pricing structure will be like.
Let's go visit the information neptunez graciously provided: On a 128MB MS (largely unavailable in Pro Duo and Duo alike from Sony or SanDisk) you could fit most movies at "decent" quality and nothing else. On 256MB ($45 minimum from SanDisk, ~$75 on Sony's site) you could make sure to get any movie at "decent," shorter movies at "medium" and still none at "highest." 512MB would almost get you there, and cost $75-125.
Allow me to snarkily quote myself:
Heaven help you if you want TWO!
...and add to that: or keep some MP3's around AS WELL, as opposed to writing over the same card every time you do any media changing?
Certainly some people will seek out a 256MB or 512MB for a decent MP3 library to carry with them (after all many people have purchased 128/256MB flash players)--perhaps some video stuff to show off--but just where are they fitting all the feature length films or pocketfulls of Sticks that they want to keep all their media on? That's going to be a lot of cash to occupy yourself with.
...and what if you could pick up a few feature-filled, full-quality UMD's of movies you want, each of which cost half of what a DVD normally would? This here, you see, is where I again reiterate: it depends on price which in this case is two-fold... what they price UMD's at, and what price MS's cost (and what it represents alongside).
As always, it makes me giggle to see you use phrases like "your logic is flawed," Mr. Pot.
Seen those Nicktoons selling on GBA for $20 yet? You get a whole 45 minutes!
The public does not have a burning desire to "watch portable DVD's at all costs" or video in general--not yet. The point would be to take a build in audience (so this means the PSP itself must become popular enough--but then we already knew that) and offer them other things that may catch their interest, not start a whole new overriding paradigm--so much as Sony might want to claim that. Unless the PSP itself does well enough--and to the point, proves it can sell movies and other UMD media to PSP owners--I certainly don't see UMD being adopted in a range of other devices--which is what it would need to try to be a "competing standard." On that point, it will take a while (as PSP needs to build up its userbase) and have to be offered attractively--and even then it would build slowly. To be an eventual... what? I have no idea.
But of course it depends on how they handle it, not on some single point that turns it off like a light switch. Prerecorded MD was laughable because the format was a 100% presentation (and limitation) of the player's innate capacity, it was not really offered any cheaper than CD's, and they didn't go out of their way to even inform consumers that they existed in the first place. Since UMD's circumstance on the PSP is entirely different and the public has shown more willingness to replicate media in different areas, "how its handled" will of course be the many-faceted telling point.
I guess you've never used a flash based MP3 player before? You either keep the orginial file on your PCs HDD or you burn it to CDR. It's not that big of a deal. If you look at the sheer number of flash MP3 players out on the market, it should tell you that people don't mind downloading MP3s from their PCs into their players at all. They already expect this when they buy the thing.
People are not going to be carrying around libraries of movies with them whether isn't on UMD or MS. Watching movies on a little screen is a niche market anyway. The portable DVD player movie watching market is relatively large because they have big screens plus the fact you can use your standard DVD.
Most people don't buy multiple large capacity flash cards unless they're cheap which they're becoming. I just got an 1GB SD card for $50. Besides why the heck do you think they're called FLASH to begin with assuming MS will be still be expensive???
Of course it will depend on the price, but they're supposed to make money from UMD movies not loose money.
Sure that's because they're what 32MB, 64MB? Are they even using MPEG4? Can GBA even decode MPEG4?
In the image above neptunez posted, the text writes one of expected usage models of PSP is you watch on a commuter train a TV program you recorded last night in home into a memstick. Note that UMD is not mainly for HD contents such as feature films, but for SD contents. I expect most UMD sold in stores are likely to come with UMD-only contents as UMD is the most 'safe' media from contents provider POV thanks to the rigid DRM.
-tkf- said:PC-Engine said:
You got a link? i know a few people that could use that
Rebate is over, but there's a new rebate for an even faster SD card 32X 1GB. After rebate (32X SD card) is around $65 depending how cheap you can find it for. $20 Rebate is for Lexar 32X SDs. Oops the new rebate is over too, expired on the 27th.