PS4 SDK 2.0 brings big improvements to Camera functions & more.

Nesh said:
To my understanding AR glasses wont need to render fully the scene 1080p or 720p at 60fps for each eye...
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It has its issues. ;)
AR is not a substitute to VR. It is a different experience that may appear more convenient and simpler to implement (guessing). I suspect the fact that since it wont need to deal with accurate head tracking
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It does need accurate head tracking if the display in the glasses is to match the real life it's overlaying.
Imagine playing Halo where HUD information is displayed on the glasses as if you are wearing a visor...
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Cool, but an expesnsive peripheral to move the HUD from TV to glasses.
...bullets are coming at you, and some objects protrude from the TV screen
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That's going to massively increase cost and complexity.
If AR can find its use in more games and its cheaper to buy more people will jump in to that instead of VR despite that VR is a different but better experience.
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I don't think it's cheaper. It still requires head tracking, quite possibly even more sensitive as there can't be any lag between the computer update and the real world it's overlaying, and needs a more advanced display than a commodity mobile-phone screen.
So despite that VR may be a better experience, I think people may opt easier for the different experience of AR
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If it's significantly cheaper and easier, perhaps, but I doubt that's the case.
 
Shifty Geezer said:
It has its issues. ;)
It does need accurate head tracking if the display in the glasses is to match the real life it's overlaying.
Cool, but an expesnsive peripheral to move the HUD from TV to glasses.That's going to massively increase cost and complexity. I don't think it's cheaper. It still requires head tracking, quite possibly even more sensitive as there can't be any lag between the computer update and the real world it's overlaying, and needs a more advanced display than a commodity mobile-phone screen.
If it's significantly cheaper and easier, perhaps, but I doubt that's the case.
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Probably it's safe to say that MS's AR glasses needs Kinect to function properly for games on XB1, but we should be able to do non-gaming stuffs without Kinect (likely they will design it around their internet-of-things idea and compatible with many devices other than XB1). However, it should have a built in depth sensor (probably a ToF camera), so it may not need Kinect even for playing games on XB1. It could be far more than an expensive gaming-only peripheral and they may design it to be the next big thing in the market (as suggested by Microsoft patents and maybe this Nadella statement). Also they planned to support gaze tracking within their AR glasses (several patents suggest gaze tracking), so it may increase XB1 processing efficiency for non-AR games using foveated rendering and decrease the processing power that they need for AR.

I don't know how far they can go with their first gen AR glasses, but they showed that they can utilize clever and yet relatively cheap hardware solutions with Kinect.
 
They are starting to push the camera more. hopefully it will make it's way to being a standard part of the system soon.

 
Well, they can push it as much as they want, I can't buy it until they make a 10 ft extension cable.
 
So for some reason I still don't know, I bought the camera off Amazon the other day. Yes, I was drunk, so what?

Now, what do I do with it?
 
London-boy said:
So, nothing...
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Automatic login, voice commands, the playroom (also download the ninja minigame, even though that doesn't actually use the cam ;) ), twitch broadcast, littlebigplanet 3 fun, hands-free dancing in Ubisoft's dancing game (I like the option there that you dance to a mix-tape of other players who aced that section, works better for me than the on-screen prompts that imho just plain suck), Singstar uses it here and there, Move support for a handful of games if you still have that ... (Though even then not all need the camera). Not too much I agree but I still end up using it quite a lot.
 
enjoy the voice command? if sony make it like microsoft do on x360, then it will be very handy after you get accustmed to it.
 
London-boy said:
So for some reason I still don't know, I bought the camera off Amazon the other day. Yes, I was drunk, so what?

Now, what do I do with it?
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Twitch/Ustream streaming , Head tracking if you have Alien Isolation or War Thunder , Face scanning if you have NBA2K 15 , Motion tracking if you have Just Dance , AR stuff in PlayRoom & SingStar, Rabbids Invasion also use the camera if you have kids they could play that I guess.
 
about AR/VR stuff. it would be great if it can scan your room and make it as the game in VR. Not 1:1 copy but just the general placements of stuff. your bed is there in reality and inside the game, the tv is there in reality and game, etc.

although i dont really know what the benefit of this for games. But will be great to be "in your room" but virtually. Its familiar but different. and you can walk around as usual without taking off the VR goggles.
 
orangpelupa said:
about AR/VR stuff. it would be great if it can scan your room and make it as the game in VR. Not 1:1 copy but just the general placements of stuff. your bed is there in reality and inside the game, the tv is there in reality and game, etc.

although i dont really know what the benefit of this for games. But will be great to be "in your room" but virtually. Its familiar but different. and you can walk around as usual without taking off the VR goggles.
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Surely if you're in your room, you don't need a virtual copy of that to play in? What would you do? :)

The other day Man of Steel was on TV and I thought, wouldn't it be amazing if a game let you 'be' Superman (or just yourself), just to fly around anywhere you want? I used to dream about that when I was a kid and I got that same feeling of excitement and freedom I thought I had forgotten.
 
London-boy said:
Surely if you're in your room, you don't need a virtual copy of that to play in? What would you do? :)

The other day Man of Steel was on TV and I thought, wouldn't it be amazing if a game let you 'be' Superman (or just yourself), just to fly around anywhere you want? I used to dream about that when I was a kid and I got that same feeling of excitement and freedom I thought I had forgotten.
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Sounds like a job for Oculus Rift ...
 
Yes, but I currently doubt that the Morpheus will be connected to sufficiently powerful hardware before Oculus Rift. If Morpheus will only have a single PS4 to power it, that will not likely be sufficient for anything near the fidelity to pull it off convincingly at a sufficient frame rate. That said, a comic book world could still work of course. Sony should probably attempt to take a bunch of pages from Nintendo's book in that case.
 
Arwin said:
Yes, but I currently doubt that the Morpheus will be connected to sufficiently powerful hardware before Oculus Rift. If Morpheus will only have a single PS4 to power it, that will not likely be sufficient for anything near the fidelity to pull it off convincingly at a sufficient frame rate. That said, a comic book world could still work of course. Sony should probably attempt to take a bunch of pages from Nintendo's book in that case.
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They could make a MR game mixing your real room with the virtual world.
 
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