PS3 OS/Interface

Kryton said:
Would anti-trust laws permit them to deny a license? Using your monopoly in one area (audio/video compression) to gain another (gaming) is illegal.
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I don't think it's that obvious in this case. Microsoft does not have a monopoly on video or audio compression in any way - h.264 bests wmv9 easily for most forms of video, and the audio situation is even more diverse.

It's quite a different scenario from them using their OS "monopoly" in the browser wars.
 
PeterT said:
I don't think it's that obvious in this case. Microsoft does not have a monopoly on video or audio compression in any way - h.264 bests wmv9 easily for most forms of video, and the audio situation is even more diverse.

It's quite a different scenario from them using their OS "monopoly" in the browser wars.
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There are anti-competitive regulations in place for situations like this. You don't have to be a monopoly to trigger it. The Windows Media DRM framework pricing is public info, available and uniform to all parties (even Apple !). However it may not be clear-cut to prove MS's anti-competitive.

MS also gain if Sony license it from them. They are other alternatives too, so it's MS's loss if Sony doesn't license from them.
 
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Not a huge change from PSP, but that's not a bad thing. Looks very smooth, minimalistic and professional. I just hope they include a way to do some more hierarchical data managment than on earlier iterations of XMB, because the bar could become a bit crowded with the 60 GB hadd otherwise. It already is on my homebrew-loaded 1GB PSP memstick!

Thanks for the (semi-)high res pics!
 
PeterT said:
Not a huge change from PSP, but that's not a bad thing. Looks very smooth, minimalistic and professional. I just hope they include a way to do some more hierarchical data managment than on earlier iterations of XMB, because the bar could become a bit crowded with the 60 GB hadd otherwise. It already is on my homebrew-loaded 1GB PSP memstick!
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Yeah, realistically, they may need dedicated media client(s) on top of XMB to manage the potentially large library of photos, music, and video. At least there should be multiple view on the library (by date, by name, ...) or perhaps a search function.

If I pause in a listing, the visible movie thumbnails or the currently highlighted music file should play. But so far this is good and clean.
 
Any ideas on when we'll be getting some more OS news? Any likely conferences? If they can combine this interface with the Linux OS, and offer applications in this simplified form, I can image it appealing to a lot of folks (though the geeks need a full WIMP GUI to play about with too!). Need to know about homebrew development too!
 
My Japanese sucks. I can only make out some rough meaning for my own consumption (one ?). It seems to be speculating about some Linux developer ecology/community for Sony to discover talent.

If Linux is bundled into the 60Gb one, it is indeed a no-brainer for me to get a PS3 for work (ahem !) and claim some tax $$$ back from the government. It's easier to convince my wife too. Muahahaha !
 
max-pain said:
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/av/docs/20060511/rt003.htm

http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/av/docs/20060511/rt06.jpg
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/av/docs/20060511/rt07.jpg

http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/av/docs/20060511/ps3_xmb.wmv
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whoa, thanks for that. I wish they didnt fly by the menu like that in the video. I could barely make out some of the stuff.

the only thing under network was web browser, which was kinda odd. I suppose the online stuff will work when your inside the games (then again this could be early build, upgradable firmware for the ps3 is most likely going to happen)

noticed the "waves" look 10x better than psp's "waves", in the black background, almost look like smoke. very cool.

is famitsu the only people who got behind closed doors looks at the interface, youd figure everyone would be reporting on it, and there would be more video.

would love a translation of the new text. :)
 
I imagine there's no other network stuff yet as they haven't finalised the interfacing for different services. Does network gaming come under Network or Game? Downloading movies count as Network or Movies? If I were Sony, wth this one portal vision, I'd have a content option in the network to take users to a website portal.
 
Ars Technica have a little on it:

http://arstechnica.com/journals/thumbs.ars/2006/5/11/3925

We got a chance to play with the PS3 UI and anyone who has spent any amount of time with a PSP will recognize it immediately, it’s basically the same UI. It’s functional, simple, and easy to use. We got a chance to look at some video of movie trailers to show the kinds of things you’ll be able to download to the hard drive and it looked amazing, if this is how good we can expect Blu-Ray movies to look through the PS3 that price point may become much easier to take.
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Also, note the headline. And this is from Ars Technica, home of Sony-sceptic headlines ;) :p

"Sony steals the show with great looking and playing software, plenty of demo units, and a no-nonsense approach to the PS3"
 
If PSP is any indication, game sharing and hence networked game come under "Games".

The "Network" icon on a PSP goes to generic Internet tools like RSS reader, Internet browser, Location Free.

For usability, they should probably duplicate some of the "vertical network" links under the different media icons Music, Photo, Game and Video. e.g., Location Free TV can be accessed from Video, Location Free Photo to be accessed from Photo, etc.

The official PSP (PS3) portal come as the default home page of the browser and is in the Favorites. They should install the official PSP/PS3 news in the RSS reader too (but they didn't).
 
Titanio said:
http://watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20060511/ps3.htm

This has an interview with an SCE guy, including talk of Linux and restrictions, seemingly, but I can't make it all out - could someone perhaps provide a better translation? :)
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I think it says that they have two types of licenses, one for game developers and one for application developers. It's not an entirely open platform, but it will have general computing applications. One they seem to mention specifically is video editing and encoding, specifically HD video. Although, they do state that the user will be able to run programs from a memory stick, so I don't know. That's the best I can gather from the BabelFish translation. One thing's for sure though, it will have Linux.
 
Bad_Boy said:
Another thing, with singstar being rumored as a launch title, wouldnt that mean eyetoy would need to be avaliable at launch? I do hope they include video chatting on the friends menu.
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Kind of answering my own question. A video Developer interview (ps3portal.com) with the makers of Eye of Judgement found out that the game is planned to be a launch title for the ps3. Obviously, you cannot play this game without the use of the eyetoy, which pretty much confirms that the HD IP Eyetoy "2" will be avaliable at launch. :D

So related to the topic, I do hope they include eyetoy features built into the OS from day one, including video chatting, and possibly recording your own "home" videos in a youtube.com kind of way.

You can check the dev interview here...
http://www.ps3portal.com/ps3/videos/159.html

Oh, and the game doesnt look half bad either. :)
 
Edit: beaten by Titanio, edited link out ;)

-not all functions are in yet
-music, plays mp3 or atrac files
-keyboard and mouse functionality with web browser and friends
-parental settings for each user
 
Shifty Geezer said:
Titanio beats everyone with the links!
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tell me about it, :p

wish they had more info about the friends menu, and what features they are planning to add.
noticed network update setting, firmware updates are most definately in.
 
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