PS3 HD capacity?

This question goes out to those of you who have PS3s, the 60 gig version in particular. According to the XMB I seem to be missing a LOT of space--55GB capacity, 47GB free--is this normal? And if so, uh...why?
 
This question goes out to those of you who have PS3s, the 60 gig version in particular. According to the XMB I seem to be missing a LOT of space--55GB capacity, 47GB free--is this normal? And if so, uh...why?
55.8GiB are pretty close to 60 billion bytes. You are being displayed a quantity in GiB, not in billions of bytes. This is an old struggle in computer land.

The 55 vs 47 difference is probably a fixed amount of space reserved for the OS and for game caches.
 
I couldn't account for the missing 8GB with just two memory cards and Resistance game data, but now I know. Thanks.

The operating system could be using a portion of that space, and also some of it might be reserved for games to use as cache. Like pointed out above.
 
yea, I'd guess around 7 GB for "system" usage as mentioned.

Same thing goes on the 20 gig HDD which shows around 13 GB free on a new system (about the same as the 360)
 
which brings me to ask; can PS3 run without an HDD at all?

If sony was smart they buit in that capability. Which means they probably didn't :LOL:

DETACHABLE hard drives open up tons of flexibility. No sense squandering that.

Somebody should pull their HDD out and see what happens. However, I dont think this proves anything, as Sony could still enable the capability to run HDD'less through an update, assuming they planned the capability in. Then again, I suppose not every console can be guaranteed to be online to recieve the update.
 
Back during GDC 06 IIRC they stated PS3 HDD would be standard and required. Which is a postive imo.

What if you want to buy a PS3 and put a replacement 120 GB HDD in?

Then you just paid for a slow HDD that you dont want.

Like I said detachable=flexibility.
 
I had this question since I read that the XMB and the firmware updates aren't installed on the HDD, but on an internal PS3 memory. so I wondered if PS3 could still play games and movies without an HDD at all- regardless of HDD pros and cons.

just curious, really. would the console display a 'HDD not detected' error message and refuse to function or would it play along and you would only have a problem when trying to save or go online?
 
Standard hard drive is a bad thing?

I'm missing your point here. He's not saying that a hard drive should not be standard with the PS3, but instead asking if a user is able to replace the hard drive with one of their own, for more room I would imagine. And the other question about if the PS3 was usable without one was probably simply out of curiosity.
 
I'm missing your point here. He's not saying that a hard drive should not be standard with the PS3, but instead asking if a user is able to replace the hard drive with one of their own, for more room I would imagine. And the other question about if the PS3 was usable without one was probably simply out of curiosity.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding something as well? I said that standard/required hdd is a positive in my initial post he quoted.

For the second part, the hdd is easily replacable, no? So if it comes with a standard hdd, there would be no point to running it without a hdd inside. Unless the HDD broke or something, or like you said curiosity. But if you want to add more space, theres always that option as well.
 
What if you want to buy a PS3 and put a replacement 120 GB HDD in?

Then you just paid for a slow HDD that you dont want.

Like I said detachable=flexibility.

Most people buy a 60Gb which should be sufficient anyway. For the rare few eyeing for a 120Gb (or higher) 2.5" replacement, be glad that they can pick any on the market due to the standard SATA interface. There is zero Sony markup.

I plan to upgrade sometime next year (once I kicked into more development work). I can easily find another use for the "old" HDD as a portable storage. My current one is almost full.
 
What if you want to buy a PS3 and put a replacement 120 GB HDD in?

Then you just paid for a slow HDD that you dont want.
Get a 2.5" USB Drive caddy and use the 60 GB HDD as portable storage. Back-up a lot of download data from your PS3 ;)
 
You never get the whole thing when you buy a new hard drive. And that holds true for PS3. I remember being quite shocked when i bought my PC with a 160GB HDD, and i could only use something like 150 GB (or less? it was a long time ago) for some reason...
 
IIRC the listed capacity is unformatted. Formatting eats up available capacity for the file structure. Cast your mind back to floppy disks, and a 1 MB floppy had room for 720 KB on DOS, 880 KB on AmigaDOS. The greater capacity of AmigaDOS came with a slow file system.
 
IIRC the listed capacity is unformatted. Formatting eats up available capacity for the file structure. Cast your mind back to floppy disks, and a 1 MB floppy had room for 720 KB on DOS, 880 KB on AmigaDOS. The greater capacity of AmigaDOS came with a slow file system.

It's false advertising. They shatter young boys' dreams and expectations.:yep2:
 
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