PS3 and XBox 2 Processors Similarities? slashdot article

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themuffinking writes "IBM (the manufacturers of some of the parts for the PS3 and Xbox 2) told Alex Albrecht that the processors they are putting in the new PS3 and Xbox2 are going to be the same processor, with the parts around it arranged slightly differently. Alex pried this information out of an IBM employee, likely while interviewing him for the show on which Alex is a cohost, The Screen Savers. Alex equivocates by saying "Now again, this is a rumor... so no Slashdotting". Too late for that, but keep in mind this is just hearsay at this point.
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While both CPUs are developed by or in co-operation with IBM, note that officially the PS3 should be a CELL-based CPU(more info) and the Xbox2 a G5/PowerPC-based(more info) CPU.
Unless Sony gave up CELL there should cerainly be atleast some difference between the 2 CPUs ... IBM, Sony and Toshiba didn't invest so much money in CELL for nothing I'd guess. It's of course possible that a lot has been taken from Power(PC) to develop CELL and differences are not as big as some want us to believe.
*UPDATE* from replies on slashdot.org: "It seem the PS3 CELL processor will be using the PPC architecture as the 'Processor Unit' of the 'Processor Element'. On PS2 each CELL would be 1 'system' cpu and muliple PS2-style vector units. The vector units would be running the user-level code (all game code, tv decoder / tivo code, etc) and the system cpu would be in charge of divvying out some of the onboard resources to each of the VUs, ensuring security permissions, and stuff like that. Oh, and the system CPU was, IIRC, a PPC core. While the Xbox 2 will probably use the G5 (PPC arch) the same way it is used in a PowerMac"
 
The IBM, Sony, and Toshiba CELL alliance will probably end up being similar to the Apple, IBM, and Motorolla PowerPC alliance. IBM can sell to whoever they want, afterall it's their design. In exchange for Sony and Toshiba r&d money, they get to license Power CELL for no royalty fee to IBM.

I think Microsoft has gotten CELL or something close to it. Sony has the price advantage of not having to fork out a fee to IBM for each CPU sold. If the contract STI signed gives Sony first rights to all CELL processors fabbed at Fishkill, it doesn't stop Microsoft going to Charter Semiconductor and having them fab the chip.

Simultaneously, as part of the joint development and reciprocal manufacturing agreement between Chartered and IBM, a team of IBM technical experts are in Singapore to transfer the jointly developed 90-nm technology from IBM's 300-mm facility in East Fishkill, New York. The teams from Chartered and IBM are also working together to qualify the equipment set at Fab 7, and align Fab 7's equipment configuration and process flow with those at IBM's facility to enable the industry's first dual-source 90-nm platform. Following the launch of 90-nm engineering wafers, Fab 7 remains on schedule to manufacture 90-nm silicon-on-insulator (SOI) products for IBM in mid-2005, with Chartered becoming the only dedicated foundry to have advanced SOI capabilities.

http://www.charteredsemi.com/media/corp/2004n/20040907.asp

Of course the only probelm with this is that the X-box 2 cpu would be at .90nm.
 
Brimstone said:
I think Microsoft has gotten CELL or something close to it. Sony has the price advantage of not having to fork out a fee to IBM for each CPU sold.

If by "close" you mean "obviously different", then yes they're close.

There's already a ton of threads on the subject so i won't go into explanations.
But remember that in the worse case, a Cell CPU for the PS3 is composed of 1 PE (Maybe, it's not sure, made from a PPC core), and 8 APUs (some sort of "Super" VU1).
This configuration has very little in common with what we know about the XeCPU (rumored to be 3 Two-ways cores).
 
one said:
How can another rumor (or daydream) prove something wrong?

In a daydream world, a daydream article can prove a daydream rumor wrong. I guess that's the philosophical logic behind this. ;)

Fredi
 
but another ones daydream isn't mine.
after all, everybody has his own matrix
eddy murphy/ DAmn motherfuckers... ehehe / eddy murphy/
 
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