Proof they blew up WTC 7

[diarrhea_splatter]

They also said it sounded like bombs were going off in those buildings.

I know this doesn’t fit in with your theories but did you ever stop to think that maybe the “sounds of bombs going offâ€￾ was caused by exploding fire extinguishers? A building of that size would have a considerable number per floor and, as so happens to be he case, they would explode when exposed to fire.

True it could've been fire extinguishers, but how come on one of the HBO specials about 9/11 they had footage where they were on the ground floor and hearing explosions? I mean, they weren't up there to where the flames were, so how could have they heard it? And please don't say it was the structure of the building slowly falling apart, it's been proven those building could withstand a hit from an jet.

 

[diarrhea_splatter]

I mean, how convenient that the only portion of the Pentagon that blew up was the remodeled portion. Our government could've easily placed explosives in that building, proof is out already that they new way in advance that 9/11 was going to happen(from foreign countries and our own intelligence). So why not have attacks in more than one place, because it makes the American people feel hopeless and lost.

I still don't get why you would blow up the remodeled portion. To me it makes much more sense to blow up something that already had funds allocated for a complete renovation...not to blow up something you just spent a ton of money on remodeling. And before you say that the remodeling allowed for an easy cover to placing explosives keep in mind that place is huge...and has a ton of secret places. My friends father worked under an IBM contract for the Pentagon years ago and went to places in the building that no one had been to for years and years. And the whole thing about blowing up more sites and all...seriously man you are making yourself look like a total moron.

I know and my friends girlfriend who lives in Canada's Uncles mother, also worked in the Pentagon and has been in the secret places. Come on, before you start name calling look at the facts, but I guess it's hopeless. A lot of you here seem to keep the old head in the sand and don't want to admit to the facts, that's ok. Sleep sheeple...sleeeeep.

 

[notAFanB]

I know and my friends girlfriend who lives in Canada's Uncles mother, also worked in the Pentagon and has been in the secret places.

yo know Me?

 

[Humus]

And please don't say it was the structure of the building slowly falling apart, it's been proven those building could withstand a hit from an jet.

Yes, and they did withstand the hit too. But they couldn't withstand the heat.

 

[London Geezer]

And please don't say it was the structure of the building slowly falling apart, it's been proven those building could withstand a hit from an jet.

Yes, and they did withstand the hit too. But they couldn't withstand the heat.

"it's been proven that these buildings could withstand a hit from a jet"

1) Was it proven by hitting them with a jet prior to 9/11? or are you talking about structural stress estimates. Cause the 2 are different.
2) If something was proven, it was proven thay could withstand the hit, yeah, which they ultimately did, but then there are many other factors coming into play.

 

[nelg]

They also said it sounded like bombs were going off in those buildings.

I know this doesn’t fit in with your theories but did you ever stop to think that maybe the “sounds of bombs going offâ€￾ was caused by exploding fire extinguishers? A building of that size would have a considerable number per floor and, as so happens to be he case, they would explode when exposed to fire.

True it could've been fire extinguishers, but how come on one of the HBO specials about 9/11 they had footage where they were on the ground floor and hearing explosions? I mean, they weren't up there to where the flames were, so how could have they heard it? And please don't say it was the structure of the building slowly falling apart, it's been proven those building could withstand a hit from an jet.

When I was younger I would place unopened beer bottles in a campfire. The resulting explosion could be heard from over three miles away. If a fire extinguisher were to be heated to the point where it would explode you would have no difficulty hearing it from anywhere it the building.

 

[diarrhea_splatter]

They also said it sounded like bombs were going off in those buildings.

I know this doesn’t fit in with your theories but did you ever stop to think that maybe the “sounds of bombs going offâ€￾ was caused by exploding fire extinguishers? A building of that size would have a considerable number per floor and, as so happens to be he case, they would explode when exposed to fire.

True it could've been fire extinguishers, but how come on one of the HBO specials about 9/11 they had footage where they were on the ground floor and hearing explosions? I mean, they weren't up there to where the flames were, so how could have they heard it? And please don't say it was the structure of the building slowly falling apart, it's been proven those building could withstand a hit from an jet.

When I was younger I would place unopened beer bottles in a campfire. The resulting explosion could be heard from over three miles away. If a fire extinguisher were to be heated to the point where it would explode you would have no difficulty hearing it from anywhere it the building.

The difference being, you were at a campfire out in the open, the buildings had insulation between all the floors, so no you couldn't hear it that good. Besides the fire fighters that were at the main flames said it wasn't that bad up their and had everything under control.

 

[function]

Awesome documentary about why the twin towers collapsed on Channel 4 in the UK last year.

Explained how the steel trusses supporting the floors weakened and failed because of the intense heat of the aviation fuel fire. When the trusses failed the floors started falling (huge slamming "bomb" sounds recorded from everywhere). As the floors held the outer shell of the building to the central core (this is how the building got it's strength and was able to have large, open plan offices) when enough floors had gone the structure lost it's strength at that point and was unable to support the area above.

The building could withstand the force of a plane impact relatively easily, but the fires took out multiple floors, leaving the tubular structure weakened where the floors went and so the buildings collapsed. Right down on themselves.

After watching something like that, you realise how retarded all these conspiracy theories are.

 

[diarrhea_splatter]

Awesome documentary about why the twin towers collapsed on Channel 4 in the UK last year.

Explained how the steel trusses supporting the floors weakened and failed because of the intense heat of the aviation fuel fire. When the trusses failed the floors started falling (huge slamming "bomb" sounds recorded from everywhere). As the floors held the outer shell of the building to the central core (this is how the building got it's strength and was able to have large, open plan offices) when enough floors had gone the structure lost it's strength at that point and was unable to support the area above.

The building could withstand the force of a plane impact relatively easily, but the fires took out multiple floors, leaving the tubular structure weakened where the floors went and so the buildings collapsed. Right down on themselves.

After watching something like that, you realise how retarded all these conspiracy theories are.

Too bad the facts I present are neither a theory or a conspiracy.

 

[Humus]

Just give up.
You got a conspiracy theory that doesn't even make sense and is based on a few vague implications and contain huge gaping holes.

 

[nelg]

The difference being, you were at a campfire out in the open, the buildings had insulation between all the floors, so no you couldn't hear it that good. Besides the fire fighters that were at the main flames said it wasn't that bad up their and had everything under control.

IMHO you would be able to hear it clearly. Perhaps by the fire fighters saying that "everything is under control" they were referring to the fact that the building was empty? Considering what had just transpired I doubt they were concerned, at all, if the building collapsed or not. I, for one, would think that the firefighters were more preoccupied with saving lives as opposed to buildings.

 

[diarrhea_splatter]

Just give up.
You got a conspiracy theory that doesn't even make sense and is based on a few vague implications and contain huge gaping holes.

not true

 

[diarrhea_splatter]

The difference being, you were at a campfire out in the open, the buildings had insulation between all the floors, so no you couldn't hear it that good. Besides the fire fighters that were at the main flames said it wasn't that bad up their and had everything under control.

IMHO you would be able to hear it clearly. Perhaps by the fire fighters saying that "everything is under control" they were referring to the fact that the building was empty? Considering what had just transpired I doubt they were concerned, at all, if the building collapsed or not. I, for one, would think that the firefighters were more preoccupied with saving lives as opposed to buildings.

Check out the radio logs, they were evacuating people the whole time, but the fires were under control and not that bad. It wasn't some hot inferno that the media makes it out to be.

 

[function]

Are you talking about the twin towers, and the fires caused by the plane collisions, or something else?

 

[Sariden]

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/wtc/collapse.html

PBS interview with an MIT professor explaining the process that brought down the towers and the differances in sky scraper design.

Basically the building could have easily withstood any "normal" fire which starts in one area and burns into another. However, the force of the impact and the amount of jet fuel burning at 1,300 degrees F in such a WIDE AREA caused too much degredation of the entire structural system, which in turn collapsed and brought down the towers.

When it comes to speculation I'll take the rational, detailed, and thurough model put forth by people who know what they're talking about , long before I listen to some crack pot with a bad website whos convinced that the world is controled by Owl Worshipping hippies.


http://www.tms.org/pubs/journals/JOM/0112/Eagar/Eagar-0112.html

http://www.techreview.com/articles/roush092701.asp

 

[Willmeister]

I remember reading that Guiliani had over 5000 gallons of 'emergency' diesel fuel stored at the WTC but I'd seriously doubt that it would be stored above ground...

 

[diarrhea_splatter]

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/wtc/collapse.html

PBS interview with an MIT professor explaining the process that brought down the towers and the differances in sky scraper design.

Basically the building could have easily withstood any "normal" fire which starts in one area and burns into another. However, the force of the impact and the amount of jet fuel burning at 1,300 degrees F in such a WIDE AREA caused too much degredation of the entire structural system, which in turn collapsed and brought down the towers.

When it comes to speculation I'll take the rational, detailed, and thurough model put forth by people who know what they're talking about , long before I listen to some crack pot with a bad website whos convinced that the world is controled by Owl Worshipping hippies.


http://www.tms.org/pubs/journals/JOM/0112/Eagar/Eagar-0112.html

http://www.techreview.com/articles/roush092701.asp

Seeing that our government has a hand in MIT, it doesn't really matter to me what professor from their says. And yea, the owl worshipping hippies are real, unfortunately. If you do a web search on the Bohemian Grove, you'll find out that it's not just "crack pots" posting about them. Have you even seen the video Dark Secrets: Inside Bohemian Grove? Check it out, lots of info, Alex Jones isn't just some crack pot, if you research what he's saying, you'll find out it's true after all. Just like everything else I've been posting.

 

[Razor04]

I remember reading that Guiliani had over 5000 gallons of 'emergency' diesel fuel stored at the WTC but I'd seriously doubt that it would be stored above ground...

Information on that can be found in the FEMA report. It devotes a couple pages to the emergency generators in that building in the report.

Seeing that our government has a hand in MIT, it doesn't really matter to me what professor from their says. And yea, the owl worshipping hippies are real, unfortunately. If you do a web search on the Bohemian Grove, you'll find out that it's not just "crack pots" posting about them. Have you even seen the video Dark Secrets: Inside Bohemian Grove? Check it out, lots of info, Alex Jones isn't just some crack pot, if you research what he's saying, you'll find out it's true after all. Just like everything else I've been posting.

Yep...you are insane...move on... Oh and I guess all the other professors at other schools that said the same thing in addition to the industry and trade professionals are just plain wrong too cause the government controls all of us. Alex Jones is a complete lunatic...he spewed wrong infromation so many times in that vid online it wasn't even funny. Give me a break...

 

[diarrhea_splatter]

Alex Jones is a complete lunatic...he spewed wrong infromation so many times in that vid online it wasn't even funny. Give me a break...

Prove it. 8)

 

[Razor04]

Prove it. 8)

Actually I already did earlier...when I pointed out that the times he listed for the collapse of WTC 7 were completely wrong and off by more than a half hour. Pretty shoddy investigative reporting if you ask me. I could list numerous other times...but why should I waste my time on any of that? You won't believe any of it. I personally am done participating in this thread as no matter what I or anyone else says to you you will just cast it aside as being false or manipulated by the government.