Politics - Which party are you siding with?

[NeoCool]

I chose democrat, I'm on the good side, baby! 8)

 

[epicstruggle]

I chose democrat, I'm on the good side, baby! 8)

Im curious why is your side good?
later,
epic

 

[NeoCool]

Well, it all depends about which side you believe is good or you think you know is good, or, if you look at it in theory, a terroist could be another man's freedom fighter, so it's all a matter of perspective, so in general, there is no such thing as good vs evil. Or good and bad.

 

[Sxotty]

I clicked independent b/c neither party does what I want.

There is an argument that the most optimal outcome is acheived by argumentation of ideas. Whether this is true or not I am not sure, but what I am sure is that the current state of affairs is not advantageous.

The recent medicare bill is a good example of the illogical way things get done. No politician wants to look bad by not signing a medicare bill, but it was terrible for a multitude of reasons. I saw conservative and liberals both disparaging it, and I agree that from either side it is not a particularly stellar piece of legistlation. I think to many people are afraid to do anything they think is right b/c they are paralyzed by polls... ah well.

 

[K.I.L.E.R]

Communist.

 

[Sage]

Communist.

socialist for me. there ought to be more options.

 

[K.I.L.E.R]

I knew someone was going to post something sillier than I have.

Great one Sage.

Seriously the only rule I see is God's rule. God's politics and God's law.

All the other laws are beneath me and all other rule is beneath me.

 

[Sage]

I knew someone was going to post something sillier than I have.

Great one Sage.

Seriously the only rule I see is God's rule. God's politics and God's law.

All the other laws are beneath me and all other rule is beneath me.

uhh..... i thought you were communist? what's all this about God and stuff? You make it sound as though you do not believe that the state has absolute power :?

 

[K.I.L.E.R]

You make it sound as though you do not believe that the state has absolute power.

Absolute power is a little hard to believe. IE: There are still cirminals on the street committing crimes and MJ is not in the same jail cell as I am.

 

[Sage]

I knew someone was going to post something sillier than I have.

Great one Sage.

oh, and what did you mean by that? Are you implying that socialism is silly? It happens to be the form of government that takes the best care of ALL of its members, only it has to be on a pretty small scale. I assumed you were serious about being communist...

 

[K.I.L.E.R]

I knew someone was going to post something sillier than I have.

Great one Sage.

oh, and what did you mean by that? Are you implying that socialism is silly? It happens to be the form of government that takes the best care of ALL of its members, only it has to be on a pretty small scale. I assumed you were serious about being communist...

I don't care how a government runs itself as long as the people are happy and all living nicely.

 

[hkultala]

I live in Finland, were democracy is not choosing the less bad from 2 bad parties.

Instead, it's choosing the least bad from 10 parties
Here we have "kokoomus" and "keskusta" for republicans;

Kokoomus is more for free trade, low taxes etc,
(but go too far in this; finland have had very good social security net and very good (free) health etc. services.. but now the free healt services are underbudjeted so that they have so big queues that many people buy their health services from medical companies in order to actually get treatment)
Then we had goverment-owned telephone company, which could have brought internet to every home in finland, but they sold the company to investors, and choosed some "casino player" as a CEO,
and now the company(Sonera) just tries to make money ( but initially just lost lots of it bying UMTS licensed from many countries))
But Kokoomus did a good job of getting rid of most of the big dept finland had.

Keskusta is more concervative and tries to keep the countryside alive.
But most modern citizens don't undestand that countryside should stay alive and don't care and they don't like Keskusta because of this.
"they are wasting our money by giving it to the farmers".

Then we have SDP for more sosialist people.
SDP wants to give the same things for everyone.
They are bad for things like education;
they are destroying our excellent technical university system by 1st raising the position of (non-academic) technical schools as close to technical universities as possible, and how they are going to limit the "academic freedom" of the technical universities.

And greens who just oppose everything(except legalization of drugs) but have no solutions to anything.

Then there are also smaller parties like christian union, swedish party, communist party..

 

[K.I.L.E.R]

Every party has it's own agendas. The thing is, all parties should bring everything up to standards at least. Too bad there is always limited $$$.

Countries like America can afford to throw away money to an extent. Countries like Australia can't afford to throw away money on useless stuff.

I foolishly believe politicians are there to help out people, bring order, bring happiness and model the country to something likeable.

 

[Humus]

Independent for me. I'm quite liberal, in the true meaning of the word (pro freedom/individualism/capitalism etc), and not what it has come to mean in NA for some odd reason. Over here the two most right-wing parties describe themselves as liberal.

 

[Blade]

Either Republican or independent. I agree with Republicans to a point, but my opinion is definitely that of a conservative; the Republican party has made their fair share of stupid mistakes IMO, so it might be better if I consider myself an independent.

 

[ByteMe]

It seems to me that it breaks down like this-

The republicans are too corrupt.

The democrats are too stupid and corrupt.



I pick the lessor bad.

 

[Sabastian]

I try to avoid collectivist mentalities in my political choices. So parties that have policies centered around the collective well being I have prejudice against. Now that isn't to say that I am against the collective well being, rather that I am at odds too just how much the government should be involved with that ideal. I prefer policies that are anti interventionist in general particularly in terms of monetary and social matters. I have no problem with a government that protects negative rights but have difficulties with agendas that promote positive rights. I see the single largest problem with the current state of democracy not in the system of the electorate but rather in the unelected, unaccountable absolute authority of the judiciary. I see this as the single largest threat to the democratic system, the people cannot override the judiciary even with a massive majority vote. This is not to say the system is in immediate danger of being undermined in the near future. Rather over the long term as charters and constitutions are determined to create the obligation of a government to insure the well being of the electorate that the government becomes limited in policy forcing a welfare state and the semblance of an egalitarian socialist system on the people. In the long run it will undermind the democratic way entirely, that is my opinion.

 

[Sage]

It seems to me that it breaks down like this-

The republicans are too corrupt.

The democrats are too stupid and corrupt.



I pick the lessor bad.

the republicans are too rich and corrupt.
the democrats are too stupid and corrut.
so, the republicans are very successful at getting away with all of their corrutedness.
the democrats would like to, but they can't manage it.
thus, the democrats are the lesser of the two evils.

 

[ByteMe]

the republicans are too rich and corrupt.
the democrats are too stupid and corrut.
so, the republicans are very successful at getting away with all of their corrutedness.
the democrats would like to, but they can't manage it.
thus, the democrats are the lesser of the two evils.

Not a bad way to think about it for domestic issues. but when it comes to foreign issues it is GOOD that the republicans can get away with it.

 

[Sage]

Not a bad way to think about it for domestic issues. but when it comes to foreign issues it is GOOD that the republicans can get away with it.

but the republicans aren't getting away with it. we have alienated even our most important allies, we have turned into the neighborhood bully. the democrats wouldn't have ever managed to get the support to do something like that. International policy is dictated domestically.