Overclockers get to test R520?

[CMAN]

I would suspect ATI wouldn't want to show the new hardware unless it was going to launch soon. Therefore I suspect it will launch immenently whether it is an 850 refresh (as the 3D mark picture suggests it will be called 950) or if it is a new product such as the 520.

Why wouldn't an R520 be called a 950XT?

R520 is a new product...but not radically different than the current cores by all (rumored) accounts.

I was just trying to point out I'm only speculating on the timing, and not the exact product to be launched. It did end up being just an X850 with extra ram (according to XBIT), therefore I assume it will launch soon. I also assume the 512 MB X850 XT PE (or however long the name is now...) version will replace the 256 MB X850 XT PE. My thought on the cancellations may still come true... Since ATIshop has much lower volume than add in partners, it's only rational for the product to dry up (or never ship) there first. They will let the add in board members get "stuck" with the older 256 cards and have to possibly, but not probably, discount them when 512 MB versions show up. And this still depends on how quick they come out, which I originally was speculation on. (Still just speculation )

 

[hovz]

yep, talk abotu a worthless announcment. frankly the retarded r480 launch(talk about pathetic, these cards are no more available than the r420 series) was more exciting than this

 

[fallguy]

What? X850's are a lot easier to get than a X800XT/PE was last year. Its not even close.

 

[PatrickL]

Anyone can post the actual roadmap for ATI? Because I have hard time trying to undertand ATI strategy for the next year.

 

[Entropy]

It would surprise me greatly if ATI launched/previewed anything significant a an event like this. It doesn't seem well suited to the corporate PR machine. And it would strengthen their identity as manufacturers of gaming accessories, which is what they primarily are, but seem ambivlent about.

But maybe they've lost enough ground to nVidias 6xxx series that they recognize that they would profit from being more aggressive in their gaming profile.

 

[tEd]

Specs. of the machine someone can win at the LAN:

AMD FX55
ATI Radeon Xpress 200 Motherboard AKA Bullhead
ATI Radeon 850 XT 512MB Video card
Corsair PC3200XL Pro Ram 1 Gig
2X 74Gig WD Raptor HD in Raid 0
200Gig Seagate 7200 SATA HD
NEC 16X Dual Layer DVD Burner
Adaptec SATA Raid Controller
Creative Labs Audigy 2 ZS soundcard
Antec NEO 480 Watt PSU with custom length sleeved cables
2x Antec 120MM Red case fans
1 Antec 92MM Smartcool case fan. (Temp controled)
DangerDen TDX A64 waterblock
DD12V waterpump
Black Ice Xtreme Radiator
Tygon 3603 1/2" waterline
Custom black hose clamps
Custom black acrylic DeltaT case with integrated water-cooling.
Custom ATI logos etched into the case.
All polished stainless steel hardware
Red Logitech MX510 mouse (not shown)
Windows XP Pro SP2

 

[PatrickL]

Source is rage3d thread no ?

 

[tEd]

yes

it's from the guy who build the system

 

[MuFu]

yes

it's from the guy who build the system

Bah, what would he know?!

I am pretty sure ATi have fooled him and it's actually an R520. ...and if that notion makes Anandtech or The Inq I will drink the fluorescent orange water in my W/C rig.

 

[Blazkowicz]

How bloody anti-climactic, I demand a full refund on the useless days of speculation! :?

Likewise. All this for the fleeting benefit of the benchmarking geekdom, and these 512Mb R480 boards will likely not even make it to commercial production. Unless they unveil something more tangible on the mobo front, this kind of overblown hype will deservedly backfire.

I'm pretty sure we'll see it in production, against the 6800 ultra 512MB already announced.

There's nothing deep about these releases, they are just the consequence of the availability of 512Mbit GDDR3 modules.

 

[Karma Police]

oooh, digi & hanners, you sneaky bastards!!...... getting pics like that reveals your small camera!!

http://www.elitebastards.com/#news9248

 

[digitalwanderer]

oooh, digi & hanners, you sneaky bastards!!...... getting pics like that reveals your small camera!!

http://www.elitebastards.com/#news9248

Normal sized camera, but pulling that thing from my rig with all the puppies was a royal bitch!

 

[nagus]

question is ... whats that "prototype testing" on driverheaven all about .. if it's not a "currently released card with 512 meg of ram" ... in other words, the (confirmed) X850 Boards with 512MB.

and whats the meaning of releasing an 512MB card with current tech, if the (obviously) new tech is about as good as ready (zardon would have never posted this, if this "prototype" where month away...

THAT SIMPLY DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE, DOES IT?

 

[ZoinKs!]

Anyone can post the actual roadmap for ATI? Because I have hard time trying to undertand ATI strategy for the next year.

Heh. I'm having trouble understanding their strategy over the last year.

 

[tEd]

question is ... whats that "prototype testing" on driverheaven all about .. if it's not a "currently released card with 512 meg of ram" ... in other words, the (confirmed) X850 Boards with 512MB.

and whats the meaning of releasing an 512MB card with current tech, if the (obviously) new tech is about as good as ready (zardon would have never posted this, if this "prototype" where month away...

THAT SIMPLY DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE, DOES IT?

zardon does not or didn't test a x850 512mb card.

 

[kemosabe]

Begging the question: what did he test? But more to the point, why did he even mention this next-generation prototype hardware in the same breath as tomorrow's Dallas LAN event and hence confuse all his readers about ATI's "secret unveiling"? Not that the sky will be falling, but he really messed things up, IMO.

 

[CMAN]

Begging the question: what did he test? But more to the point, why did he even mention this next-generation prototype hardware in the same breath as tomorrow's Dallas LAN event and hence confuse all his readers about ATI's "secret unveiling"? Not that the sky will be falling, but he really messed things up, IMO.

Because he was feeling evil

 

[wireframe]

Begging the question: what did he test? But more to the point, why did he even mention this next-generation prototype hardware in the same breath as tomorrow's Dallas LAN event and hence confuse all his readers about ATI's "secret unveiling"? Not that the sky will be falling, but he really messed things up, IMO.

Or you could say he did a brilliant job making something out of nothing (best wait until to the ned of the month for final judgment). This seems to be a tradition at that place. Out of all the websites that cover 3D hardware, DriverHeaven is probably the worst page you can load in your browser. It is clear, after reading it a few times and knowing some facts, that they are extremely biased and willing to lie to present one brand in a better light than another. It's disgusting and why I don't even bother reading anything they publish. I simply don't trust their numbers or assessments on anything.

 

[hovz]

Begging the question: what did he test? But more to the point, why did he even mention this next-generation prototype hardware in the same breath as tomorrow's Dallas LAN event and hence confuse all his readers about ATI's "secret unveiling"? Not that the sky will be falling, but he really messed things up, IMO.

Or you could say he did a brilliant job making something out of nothing (best wait until to the ned of the month for final judgment). This seems to be a tradition at that place. Out of all the websites that cover 3D hardware, DriverHeaven is probably the worst page you can load in your browser. It is clear, after reading it a few times and knowing some facts, that they are extremely biased and willing to lie to present one brand in a better light than another. It's disgusting and why I don't even bother reading anything they publish. I simply don't trust their numbers or assessments on anything.

basically, they rly arent any better than nvnews.

 

[wireframe]

basically, they rly arent any better than nvnews.

Nvnews may be biased in that they focus on Nvidia hardware, but I think that can be expected by a site with NV in their name. However, I don't think Nvnews is as big on putting down the competition as they are in elevating Nvidia. There is a big difference between ignoring the competition and lying about it.

For example, in reviewing the 6600GT, Nvnews would compare this to other Nvidia products and leave out ATI entirely. Fine. At least they don't compare it to ATI products running 'known-to-be-flawed' drivers in a configuration that is known to be most deterimental to their performance and then passing it off as a legitimate comparison. The way DriverHeaven treats 8x FSAA on the 6800 is irritating enough. Not only do they fail to mention its special qualities, but they almost make it sound as if it is not up to scratch on ATI's 6x FSAA.

I suppose I could come across as biased when I see more flaws in DriverHeaven than Nvnews. However, it is not bias in and of itself that annoys me, but when they deliberately spread misinformation or skew results in accordance with their bias. How I long for some true unbound enthusiasts' opinions and insights.

But, then again, even a technical place like this has a tendency towards the absurdly opinionated these days. When R420 and NV40 were released there was more talking down about the one people didn't favor. "Oh, but it doesn't even have SM 3.0" and "Well, they don't have 3Dc" and an endless insistance on driver level cheating come to mind. This tells me that most people posting are not product enthusiasts, but have some other agenda. I've never understood how people who can at one moment seem so enthusiastic about a product can be so hostile about another. I want them all. Not because they are all great. In fact, none of them are perfect, but I still want them all because I love what they do and I find it interesting to discover what their differences are.

But I rant...