Opera goes DS
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Megadrive1988
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hopefully it'll work as good as it sounds
it takes a full minute or more to get Dreamcast operational with any of its various web browsers.
The DS is probably closer to the Saturn in amount of processing power and memory that it has available to it, but DS has faster loading with its cartridge, and combined with an optimized browser from Opera, may very well kick the crap out of Planetweb's efforts on Saturn or Dreamcast.
It should be very interesting to see. I hope NoA doesn't decide against releasing it here in the U.S.
it takes a full minute or more to get Dreamcast operational with any of its various web browsers.
The DS is probably closer to the Saturn in amount of processing power and memory that it has available to it, but DS has faster loading with its cartridge, and combined with an optimized browser from Opera, may very well kick the crap out of Planetweb's efforts on Saturn or Dreamcast.
It should be very interesting to see. I hope NoA doesn't decide against releasing it here in the U.S.
This should be more full-featured than PSP browsing too, because it's not ROM constrained in the same way. Do you think there'll be proper Java/Flash support? I don't suppose DS has the processing power for Flash though. I like the navigation on the second screen. Not sure the small res of the top screen is going to be very good for browsing though.
Weee-eell, well-written programs don't have to occupy all that much space anyway, especially if the compiler is set to optimize for space rather than performance - which wouldn't be an issue when just browsing I might add.Shifty Geezer said:
Sure hope so. DS could even do flash if it uses its 3D engine to accelerate rendering I'll wager, but available RAM is probably a bigger issue here than actual hardware performance. Many flash animations are multiple megabytes in size. If the browser could use an additional DRAM/flashmem cart in the GBA slot then that wouldn't be an issue, but it'd be too complicated/"confusing" for consumers I guess.
Um, both screens on the DS are same rez, yes?
In any case, this news is AWESOME. DS is looking cooler all the time!
AAAAHHH. Maybe there IS hope after all then for a full-featured browsing environment!Apoc said:
It would SO rule if I could take a DS with the Opera cart with me to the states when I go there on vacation this summer. Would rule even more if the plane has wifi internet so I can post on B3D while I'm on a boring long-haul transatlantic flight. I guess I have to pray intensely to the great Nintendo gods, but if they know what's good for them, they'll understand there's tons of interest something like this over here as well and release it Real Soon.What a great move of them to stick wifi in the DS. Awesome.
Does anyone have links to more images - preferably closer-up/higher rez?
Indeed, with stylus navigation and INPUT and Opera's dual screen mode (top screen magnified), this is a perfect portable browsing device. Any word on if Opera's browser can rotate 90 degrees for vertical viewing? I've noticed that some games on DS require you to hold the DS vertically now with the screens side by side. Also since the PDA versions of Opera resizes web pages for smaller screens for optimal viewing, I have no doubt this would work quite well. I already have a MobilePro 780 and 880 H/PC for internet on the go, but this would be a very nice addition to my mobile internet surfing collection.
With Nintendo's free WiFi hotspots at McDonalds etc, this would be pretty handy.That's not the important thing though. What's important is that surfing will be fairly easy on the DS while on Dreamcast you had to use the stupid thumbstick to move a cursor. Of course without a keyboard inputing text would be slower than a Dreamcast with keyboard attached, but the stylus would be faster than using a controller.
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Not knowing how much room PSP has for firmware upgrades I dunno how much more Sony can add by way of Java support (Sun Java is few megabytes in size!) or Flash (>700 KB - And wow, Adobe have bought Macromedia!Guden Oden said:
)Flash runs pretty slow from my experience. The usual banners etc. are fine, but things like Flash games might be squiffy (if at all playable!)
They really need more RAM somehow. PSP has memory problems browsing with 32 MB. Both need access to alternative flash storage is browsing is to become more.
Yes. Both are on the small side for browsing. The touch screen is smartly used for navigation of the page, so scrolling should be easy. But this text window alone is 540 pixels wide. I'd be scrolling left and right all the time to read it.
To my knowledge, it hasn't been wifi-enabled unfortunately, not even in the DS lite... If only Nintendo would get google talk on the DS too, the GUI on that would fit the white DS lite's design perfectly!NANOTEC said:
Nano:
Awesome image. This is going to be SO great.
Guden Oden said:To my knowledge, it hasn't been wifi-enabled unfortunately, not even in the DS lite... If only Nintendo would get google talk on the DS too, the GUI on that would fit the white DS lite's design perfectly!
Nano:
Awesome image. This is going to be SO great.
Well, they've had a VoIP chat demo for quite a while and apparently they've implemented a voice chat in Metroid: Hunters. So maybe there's hope for a IM/VoIP catridge.
Maybe reflashing the firmware with a new pictochat version? Always a possibility... Wonder if the DS can be updated via wifi, if so you could do it by walking into a videogame store and ask the staff to have the unit flashed (using some special device/DS cartridge I would assume)...
Wonder if the DS can be updated via wifi, if so you could do it by walking into a videogame store and ask the staff to have the unit flashed (using some special device/DS cartridge I would assume)...
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