NVIDIA: Beyond G80...
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, nV better have some drivers ready soon for it.But less compatible for upgraders.
There are certain advantages to the gx2 concept over sli. I remain convinced, as I've been for a couple years now, that this kind of thing will just keep expanding not declining.
It will be curious to see how exactly does the BR03 PCIe processor play with the NVIO, if one is still needed in G81...
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Remember the "8800 Ultra" string found in the forceware drivers ?
Well, the most recent set (101.02, WinXP) still has that reference, along with other new additions, mostly related to MCP68 and MCP73.
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Maybe nVidia is creating a NAME for itself by launching at those ridiculous price points and generally focus on the salivating potential in the e-penis customer target group.
nV needs to start taking a new route with it's processing power, we still see some products out there that don't give the SLI users any advantage and basically saddles them up with an expensive hot 7900GS. We now how .. immature SLI is on Vista. What if they start differentiating the type of workload that each processor will handle in a non optimal environment?
You could basically have some physics acceleration on the same card and tout your product as a all-in-one solution that runs at the fastest frames possible in non-physics environments and give you a new shiny The Way It's Meant To Be Dual-processed logo once titles appear that properly use a second GPU as a physics accelerator.
I say that depends on how fast it is, how fast R600 is, and what R600 ends up being priced at. Even at $999 someone, somewhere, will be buying them GX2s pairs.
Given that the GTX was $650 at launch, I don't see why they wouldn't go for around $800 or so. $1000 seems a bit excessive, but not out of the question, depending upon performance. Seems like it'd be a bit difficult to get the performance needed to justify that expense, though, if we take the current GTX prices as a baseline for acceptable cost for a given performance.
Well, we'll see. I don't recall anyone seriously questioning NVs ability to market, and understand the creation and maintenance of niches. Always a first time, of course. . .
icecold1983
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id rather them not release a gx2 if it means they dont make the 8800 ultra or whatever will top the gtx as fast as possible.
Well, this is one of those things that happen in the absence of competition.
Seems to me that there are several possibilities:
1) the $1000 rumor is incorrect
2) the $1000 rumor is accurate
. . a) pricing is based on NV's guesstimates regarding R600
. . b) pricing is based on NV's actual research/knowledge re: R600
. . c) pricing matches rarity of product availability and is a cynical attempt to retain the top performance spot.
Others?
I'm thinking that pricing won't really be set until R600 pops up, but the rumors don't serve to bolster the case that the R600 will be some kind of shock-and-awe competitor. [If the R600 was really 40% faster than 8800GTX, and the GX2 is going to be 50% faster, does $1000 make sense?]
PS: I think Geo's sig is actually kind of an interesting issue, really....
Right, but on the other hand if R600 isn't going to be that impressive then why release an unnecessary and expensive GX2 to begin with? $1K still sounds ridiculous to me given current GTS and GTX pricing.
R600 doesn't have to body slam the G80 in order to "win"?
And $1k isn't unprecedented: http://dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=1272
I agree with the notion that it's odd, though, as I would have expected a 10 cluster, 650+Mhz, 512b bus "Ultra" with some GDDR4 on it :shrug:
Seems more likely that "SLI" will get more interesting/useful when you can detach sets of clusters. For that to work, though, there'd have to be some non-trivial work in the shared-cache/memory access area...
Nope, it has to body slam whatever Nvidia comes with in the next few months. It's long been disqualified from the G80 bout.
Yeah I don't think those sold at $1K or even sold at all! Hopefully it's the case with this rumour as well. 512-bit isn't in the cards for me since it would imply that G80 is currently severely bandwidth limited.
Aerows
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Whoa Trinibwoy...you hit 5000 posts
I'd agree with you that it won't be in the running with G80 at this date.
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Lol, too bad only about 7 or 8 of them were of any use!! But whatever, I'm now in the 5000 club!!
Aerows
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I have such mixed feelings about SLI. It sounds like a great idea, but there are a lot of games that aren't compatible with it (or Crossfire either, for that matter). Which naturally leads to the question of, how well is SLI working in Vista? I have neither SLI nor Vista, so I can't say.
I also thought that you had to have an SLI capable motherboard to use the 7900 GX2, so maybe that isn't the case for the 8800 GX2. Then I could see the argument that it is good for an upgrade.
I guess it doesn't matter, I'm as likely to buy a $1000 video card as I am to suddenly be able to fly just by flapping my arms.
I have such mixed feelings about SLI. It sounds like a great idea, but there are a lot of games that aren't compatible with it (or Crossfire either, for that matter). Which naturally leads to the question of, how well is SLI working in Vista? I have neither SLI nor Vista, so I can't say.
I also thought that you had to have an SLI capable motherboard to use the 7900 GX2, so maybe that isn't the case for the 8800 GX2. Then I could see the argument that it is good for an upgrade.
I guess it doesn't matter, I'm as likely to buy a $1000 video card as I am to suddenly be able to fly just by flapping my arms.
You don't need a SLI-ready motherboard to use either the 7900 GX2 or the 7950 GX2.
In fact, you can even use certain boards with AMD/ATI, Intel, SiS and VIA chipsets.
Well, if there's a problem with SLI and Vista, I seriously doubt it's something that will last long. nVidia's drivers for Vista are still a bit raw, but they'll get much better soon, I'm sure.