Next Gen Chipsets - Inquirer

[Ichneumon]

3x Pipelines of any sort (pixel, vertex) does not mean 3x the performance. Your ATI friends are probably talking about hardware, not real world performance.

And people, I think it's time to wake up from the "blow everything away" dream. It didn't happen with 3dfx, it didn't happen with Bitboys/Matrox, it's certainly not going to happen with ATI. I just don't see David Kirk and Gary Tarolli sitting there, twidleling their thumbs and watching ATI produce something 3x their "most significant contribution since they entered 3D."

In a nutshell - Be realistic; Everyone is cooking something with the same possible ingredience (EDRAM, 256DDR, TBR) . The same resources are avaliable to all players, there wont' be something that the competition "never thought of."

I was never suggesting it'd be 3x the performance of next-gen cards, and I agree that would just be silly for someone to think that. But 3x the 8500 or 4600 is not entirely unrealistic. Everything about the R300 is (at least in one expected incarnation of it) far over the top in all areas of design over the currently available high-end cards.

 

[Matt Burris]

A site that threatens me with libel because of a post that stated an opinion that they post rumors, and not to take anything they say without a big grain of salt certainly speaks volumes. Anyone who is that defensive over their site isn't the type of site I visit. I still consider the site and the things they post a joke.

 

[noko]

Well there are a few things we do know about. The gf3 should be able to do 30FPS at max settings in DoomIII, that is if Carmack prediction or goal was ment. This supposenly was at 640x480x32. Now what resolution and speed was the R300 pulling at E3? This should indicate relative performance difference between a GF3 and the R300. That is if the R300 configuration being used is the one that we can get. The initial developer R300 is probably clocked somewhat slower then the production model which would probably be a newer stepping in addition to a more refined process in chip production. 3x the performance in this case does pan out as far as I can tell.

 

[pascal]

My guess it was 30 fps at 1024x768x32.

 

[Captain-Caverne]

Both R300 & NV30 will be three times faster than current top products... but in a very specific game... or should i say "engine"?

At least this is PR claims..., but considering what they (Nvidia & Ati) expect to include into their new chip, it could be true (and what was showed at E3 a few days ago tends to confirm that).