News & Rumours: Playstation 4/ Orbis *spin*

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  1. itch

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    Actually it says you can use a USB drive to update the firmware so they are definately supported at some level.

     
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    All this only applies to launch though doesn't it? All the 'missing' features could easily make a return later in the cycle. Just like they did with the PS3? After all the PS3 was like a barren wasteland at launch.
     
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    The FAQ suggests that you can only mount a USB drive in "safe mode" to install an OS update. My reading is that under normal usage, the USB ports are strictly for charging controllers and similar accessory type usage cases and that there will be no external drive support period.

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  4. patsu

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    Just post another question to Shuhei. :)

    I'm sure he'll get back to us.

    http://ps4daily.com/2013/10/playstation-4-might-support-4k-tv-after-all/

     
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    Unless there is a major policy change due to a wave of consumer anger I think it is as likely as flowers and Unicorns flying out of Sony exec's orifices. This is a calculated decision by Sony to try to force adoption of their media services.

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    Remember the last times Shu said they were thankful, and/or happy, and/or humbled, and/or appreciative about feedback, either from fanbase or devs ?
    online DRM - check
    Used games - check
    Youtube - check
    HDCP - check
    DLNA - TBD
    local MP3 - TBD
    Media on external drive - TBD

    I'll wait a while before assuming anything, but Sony's consistency is flawless right now.
    They already said months ago that media features wouldn't be ready at launch. And also said they were working on them.
     
  7. patsu

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    Hey Shuhei, if PS4 has no DLNA and no external drive support, then I would push for network drive support.

    It's more versatile than both of the above mechanisms. ;-)
     
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    I assume they'll still support MTP protocol so people can attach their cameras etc. to the PS4, like they can PS3. Then again, maybe Sony metrics shows no-one uses their PlayMemories app and are giving up? There are so many different combinations of solutions out there, perhaps logistics are that people really don't care for a console media device?? :???:
     
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    Because PS3 is quite limited in its playback capability, I built PC for my multimedia needs earlier this year with Intel i3 and Gigabyte motherboard with two HDMI outputs and I plan to use PS4 only for games and blu-ray movies, nothing else.
     
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    I have to say I am actually pretty disappointed with this latest round of news. When I do actual impact assessment, it will be minor. While I use the PS3 as the hub of my entertainment center - I generally spend most of my time with movies I own, Amazon Prime, and Netflix.

    However, I do occasionally use PlayOn to stream music and/or movies. That will be going away without DLNA. I probably won't notice, but I liked the option. I have never used an external hard drive with my PS3 - but I was starting to consider it with PS Plus. I tend to download a lot more games since I got it.

    Like I said, none of these things are deal breakers for me, but I dislike them. Timing is interesting here. Had I known about these and XBox Live's extended free game service before I decided to pre-order a PS4 over an XBox One for the holiday season (I'll still probably get an XBox One after the first of the year), I may have chosen the XBox One. But now that I'm excited for the PS4, none of these really change my mind. While it is a bit of negative publicity right before launch, I would say this is actually well timed for Sony rather than poorly timed. Most pre-orders won't cancel over these things, and these may have played into decisions when people were getting ready to pre-order.
     
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    This is the relevant section, and I can't see what else it could mean other than external HDDs cannot be used.

     
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    For now I think we can assume a similar situation as PS3. You can't play or save games to external drives, but you can still read files from them and make backups and such. The safe mode for installing firmware is a security precaution, party intended no doubt to overcome the PS3 security leak that was discovered a few years ago (and since patched).
     
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    Ya, that has to be in regards to installing games to an external HDD. If it didn't support external drives at all, how would you backup your PS4.
     
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    But then the tv would upscale
     
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    not all tv scalers are equal. We found that out back with the xbox 360 and ps3
     
  16. patsu

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    Local game backup makes sense (at least a large part of it).

    Saves Sony bandwidth and server load too !
     
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    Sony is one of the leaders in pushing 4K technology. Right now it's a very niche market. I would bet money that Sony will include 4K scaling support when people actually have 4K displays.
     
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    How does it make sense? Saves go to the cloud (for PS+ users), background install for everything else. The "backup" is either your disc or Sony's servers.

    Cheers
     
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    Redownload from Sony servers will take additional time and resources.
     
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