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  1. Skrying

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    This link should do it. Its really a nice tool. Don't be alarmed if the temperatures when using TAT are upwards of 10C higher than any other program. Mine in TAT are 55C~ compared to about 45C~ in my most demanding games and other software for testing.
     
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  2. Natoma

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    Tried to run that application under Vista x64 but it wouldn't run. Compatibility issue I s'pose. I'll try to find another one.

    That said, Q6600 is now at 3.51Ghz/390Mhz FSB, Mem 1:1@780Mhz. Ran 3hrs of Prime95 without error and FightAIDS@Home has been flawless.

    I'll give 3.6Ghz a whirl and hope it goes on by without a hitch.
     
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    WOW - I just Ran TAT on my Q6700 at stock speeds.
    I've never seen over 55 degrees, and I commonly have what I consider pretty heavy workloads. Running TAT on the 100% 2 CPU test my processor hit 68 degrees, and two of the processors were still idle.....
     
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  4. Malo

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    ouch! It's impressive how high Natoma got with his Q6600 then I guess, with some help from the recent stepping.
     
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  5. Skrying

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    Yep, that's TAT for you... if you really want to see how good your cooling is then you can run it. Of course don't let it shock you so much, as you said nothing comes even close to the load temperature it'll put on the processor.
     
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  6. Natoma

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    I didn't actively try to get a G0, and I didn't end up with one either. See pic confirmation here: http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?p=1047945#post1047945

    I just happened to get a good B3 chip. :)
     
    #146 Natoma, Aug 14, 2007
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    #147 Unknown Soldier, Aug 14, 2007
  8. Natoma

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    Your chip probably can do 3.51Ghz, or higher. You just need to get rid of that Zalman. :)

    Take a look at the Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme (what I have) vs the Zalman CNPS9700: http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.aspx?i=2943&p=4

    Look how much farther the chip overclocked with the Thermalright vs the Zalman CPNS9700, as well as the temperature differential. The Thermalright topped out at 3.96Ghz at an idle temp of 36C while the Zalman you've got topped out at 3.83Ghz at an idle temp of 40C.

    Under load, the Thermalright topped out at 3.96Ghz at a temp of 47C while the Zalman topped out at 3.83Ghz at 58C

    Hotter at lower speeds? :)

    This test was on a dual core, but you get the idea.
     
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  10. Natoma

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    Just know that there are two Thermalright Ultra 120's. One is the regular variant, used by FrostyTech, and the other is the Extreme variant. The regular variant has 4 heatpipes in its design while the extreme has 6. They're both identical dimensions. According to the tests that have been done between the two, there is definitely a cooling difference with the two extra heatpipes.

    I got the extreme and I haven't regretted it.

    From the Anandtech review:

     
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    That Ultra-90 looks great for a clipin. Any recommendations on a 92mm fan to go with it?
     
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    No idea on 92mm fans from me. I only use 120mm. Nice and quiet, tons of airflow.
     
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    Yeah but the Ultra-120 is massive, and there is no way in hell I'm ripping out my motherboard, pull off half of the 3-stage heatpipe and heatsink system on the motherboard to remove the existing DQ6 backplate, just to put on the backplate for the 120.

    Not sure I'll really bother anyway, I'm running a E6750 @ 3.55Ghz with stock cooler and 59c max in Orthos.
     
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    I didn't have to remove the 3-stage heatpipe at all. I just unscrewed the backplate. It came off in a minute. :)

    That said, if you're at 3.55Ghz with the stock cooler and 59C, you can probably get to 3.9Ghz with the same temps and the Ultra 120 Extreme. :wink:
     
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    Well I've finally come to the end of the line with this system. It will not clock to 3.6Ghz/400Mhz FSB in a stable fashion. Tried overvolting a little more on the FSB and CPU, but no dice. Random program errors, reboots, stalls during booting, etc. The system responded best to overvolting the FSB at 400Mhz, but unfortunately 0.35v is where the Gigabyte GA-P35-DQ6 stops. Maybe if I'd had another 0.05v left, I could've got this system stable at 400Mhz. hehe.

    So I guess I'm "stuck" at 3.51Ghz. :)

    http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=229445

    I wonder if this Patriot Memory can stand being overclocked. I've been overclocking with the intent of only stressing the CPU first, memory later if possible.... Other than 2:1, the lowest ratio is 2.4:1, which would put it to 936Mhz. The memory is currently cozy at 780Mhz.
     
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    I don't think the problem was the heat when I did test to 3.5Ghz .. the problem was my PC was not stable. I think it might be that CPU voltage. I had increased it to 1.4850v but it would not complete 3DMark06 without failing. In windows though, 3.5Ghz worked without any issues. Mobo FSB was set at 389Mhz x 9.

    At 3.4Ghz my FSB is 378Mhz and this was ok .. 1.4250v or something like that. Heat was a small issue but didn't reach anything critical(60 Degrees celsius) but rather sitting at around 36.

    US
     
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    That shouldn't be the limit of the FSB on the motherboard though. Personally I've had my DQ6 running at 426Mhz FSB with only raising CPU and memory voltage (memory runs +0.4v to spec). That was without pushing anything, Reviews have pushed the DQ6 to 470ish.
     
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    There's an extra load on the bus from quad-core, which might be what's in the way for Natoma. Generally bus overclocks are less with a quad-core processor anyway.
     
    #158 Rys, Aug 15, 2007
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    Thermalright Ultima-90 has been reviewed by AT. It's the same 6-heatpipe design as the Ultra 120-Extreme, but it's smaller and can accomodate 92mm and 120mm fans.

    Looks like it performs rather well: http://www.anandtech.com/casecoolingpsus/showdoc.aspx?i=3068

     
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    Just a quick post to say I grabbed a Q6600 a few days ago (mostly because of this thread), and I'm using it with a 680i SLI board and Zalman 9700 cooler. Overclocking with the P27 BIOS on my mainboard was a fairly horrible experience, but the latest P30 BIOS is a marvel.

    Currently running 8 x 425 at 1.325V (bit higher than that in the BIOS though, there's some Vcore drooping) at good reported temps (although I don't put too much stock in them in being 100% correct), memory unsync'd with the front side bus currently (although I could reasonably run it at 425MHz, will try that later).

    I get the feeling the overclock would stop ~3.6GHz or so given my cooling, but 3.4 will probably do until the Yorkfield/Phenom showdown later in the year that'll drive my next chip/system upgrade. I'm enjoying all the fiddling with the overclock though, so I might see where the real limit lies, since the current 3.4GHz is a piece of cake.
     
    #160 Rys, Sep 9, 2007
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