New 3DLabs Wildcat VP benchmaks!

Give this chip another 5-6 months to mature (to include drivers, of course), and this could very well be the dark-horse of 2002.

Looking good so far...Now let's see how it fares in DX8 applications, as the solid OpenGL performance is/was expected.
 
hmm what changes could we expect for a consumer card from Creative. Drivers would be interesting as rendering precision would be more important to 3dLabs driver team than pure perfromance, and a consumer card would have to compete with drivers where performance is king, sometimes at the cost of precision.
 
IMHO many times the performance are favoured at the cost of precision.

Good to see a professional quality level card capable of this high level gaming performance.

Probably the tests were at standard 1024x768x32. I would like to see it with FSAA ;)
 
okay... here we go... 256Bit DDR memory interfaces are coming. Today WildCat VP's, tomorrow Parhelia benches. :)
 
Very impressive indeed!

As the review said many times, remember those numbers are from very immature drivers. It can only get better.

Also, the consumer (gamer) targeted card will have a different set of drivers that will speed things up alot in areas that matter most (for me), games! Just hope the hardware isn't scaled down too much in order to keep the costs down.
 
Do you really think Creative might wait for .13? If they are shooting for a christmas release, I think they will release a .15um P10 card, then release a refresh with .13um about 7 months later.

Just my opinion.

Fuz
 
pascal said:
Probably the tests were at standard 1024x768x32. I would like to see it with FSAA ;)

ExtremeTech ran benchmarks with 4x FSAA enabled and they show a far different performance story from the Amazon International article. More thorough benchmarking will be required before I'm confident in either result. The differences in the DX Spec benchmark make me wonder. It appears that the drivers weren't consistent between the two sites so that might account for some discrepancies beyond FSAA and anisotropic filtering being enabled in the ExtremeTech article.
 
About the Extremetech benchmarks:

It may be just that I'm ignorant about some basics...or I may have even missed the very information I seek in the article, but....

The AA on the nVidia is multisampling...I assume the AA on the P10 is as well? It was just called FSAA.

What is "Quality texture filtering"? How does it compare to 4X Aniso on an nVidia card?

The article implies that they were workstation drivers, not gaming drivers...I guess both driver sets are numbered the same? I guess they wouldn't make that type of mistake, so I'd just appreciate someone educating me on this.

Why the heck wouldn't they mention what "The rest of the OpenGL driver settings were left in their default configurations." means exactly? I guess we're in store for another spate of "first to print" rushed out reviews that may or may not be gross distortions as we get new cards in the marketplace.

Basically, why the hell didn't they just do straight out no aniso no AA tests on a first pass, with simple screen shots of the configured settings panels? The ambiguities give rise to more ambiguities (atleast for me, the relatively uninformed), and makes it seem inherently useless (though it is presented as supposedly an informative comparison).

I guess all my lack of detail angst will be answered by the end of the week.

Any of the B3D crew working on some articles that offer some better information? *hint*
 
Fuz said:
Do you really think Creative might wait for .13? If they are shooting for a christmas release, I think they will release a .15um P10 card, then release a refresh with .13um about 7 months later.

It really wasn’t clear what / when / how / where / etc. Creative were actually going to do with 3Dlabs tech – I think some of it will depend on what the competition is doing in relation to what they want to do. I get the impression that P10 may not come as a high-end gaming part at all.

However I think its reasonable to assume that with NV30 known to be .13um if that comes out at about year end then other manufacturers are going to have to seek .13um parts as well to remain performance competitive, if that’s their aim.

demalion said:
Any of the B3D crew working on some articles that offer some better information? *hint*

Well, I’ve been told that review samples are in short supply; I’m sure we’re on the list to receive one but when is another question.
 
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