My Mom's laptop is driving me nuts, help please!

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I got an e-mail from my Mom the other day that had nothing in it except this link:

http://hassie.fantasticdownloadzone.com/

The next day I got another from her for a different site:

http://www.bwb7.womanhealth-c.com/

I called her up and sure enough her laptop is sending out spam e-mails every night to everyone in her address book.

Now she's using and sbcglobal.net account she accesses through her Internet Explorer. Looking through by hand nothing looked really out of place, ESET nod32 said there was nothing, Malware found a couple of little things.

I have no clue what's going on. :oops:

I found an e-mail that was rejected by someone with the path and everything, but since I don't understand such things well I thought I'd put 'em up here so someone could explain to me how I'm missing the obvious. ;)

For your convenience, the message is question is reproduced below:

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Subject: Seeking Pinellas County, Fla lawyer referral
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Only thing I changed was her name and e-dress.

Any and all help/input is appreciated, thank you.
 
1. the spam could be coming from somewhere else and spoofing her as the sender.
2. If she's using webmail and the spam is truly coming from there then it's sbcglobal with the problem.
3. If she has malware it's likely NOT going through sbcglobal, but opening a direct smtp connection to destinations. See if she has activity on port 25 or port 465 or simply close those ports to all traffic in her firewall.

If you want to PM me her detailed headers I can usually tell if something is simply spoofing her address as the sender. Usually it is then coming from a machine belonging to someone who has BOTH of you in their address book.
 
looks like someone who has yours and hers emails in address book is infected and the infection is spoofing her...

Why don't you ask her to send you a email and then compare headers ;)
 
Mize took a look at the headers from some good e-mails I had from her from before and these recent ones and found that the spam e-mails were coming out of Italy. Someone phished/stole her username/password and had been just logging in somewhere else and spamming.

I changed her password, problem solved. Many respects, kisses, and hugs to Mize for holding my hand and helping me out with the problem...if you ever have legal hassles in Indiana Mize let us know, me Mommy owes you one. ;)

Thanks everyone else too, but Mize helping me through PMs got it all sorted. :)
 
question is how did they get her password ?

There are two common ways to get someone's email password. One is to guess simple passwords (same as username, 1234, etc.) and the other is to sniff port 80 (for webmail) or port 25/110 for SMTP/POP. That's why using good passwords and encryption (https or ssl for pop/smtp/imap) is so important.
 
d/l Superantispyware(Freeware version) and run it. It should be able to pick up virus/Trojans etc. Also make sure her antivirus is working and updating properly.
 
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you can get mom's password simply by asking her :p

There are two common ways to get someone's email password. One is to guess simple passwords (same as username, 1234, etc.) and the other is to sniff port 80 (for webmail) or port 25/110 for SMTP/POP. That's why using good passwords and encryption (https or ssl for pop/smtp/imap) is so important.

have some bullshit registration form on a web page that allows her to play a lottery, sign a petition or anything frivolous.
a minimalist one will have her only enter mail address and password to secure her new account.

90% users will enter the same password they use for their mail account. so it is!
there also are such simple scams where one ask you to enter your MSN login information so that you can see some images a friend wants to share with you.

solution is to use several passwords, which is boring but is fundamental part of security (I only have two and a half passwords on the internet, one more for some other, net-accessible place, then mostly root passwords here and there)

I propose she uses one password for mail only, one serious password (for beyond3D forum and highly reputable stores) and a frivolous password for gaming sites and bullshit registration. That can be simplified in one serious and one weak password, but better in that situation is to entirely segregate mail I believe.

banking is a separate thing if she uses that (my bank login system doesn't allow me to use whatever password I use elsewhere and I'm glad it's set that way)

lastly, a quick tip : a reasonably strong and easy to remember password is a sentence such as "My cat loves to eat boobs all day."
another one would be to wipe the laptop and install the latest ubuntu on it. it's ridiculously good-looking and easy to use these days.
 
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Agreed.
I have two frivolous passwords (one is totally frivolous - forums, etc.) and the other less so. I then have several medium pwds for computer logons (non-remote) and then three 13+ random character passwords for permanent email/su that are committed to memory.

I'm totally opposed to required pwd changes after so many days as it just leads to people writing them on post-its and sticking them to their monitors.
 
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