Microtransactions: the Future of Games? (LootBoxes and Gambling)

Discussion in 'Console Industry' started by Crayon, Dec 29, 2007.

  1. lefantome

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    The real problem with microtransaction is that many people are prey to them.

    This is due to the sad state of the society (yes I know the meme) where people are depressed, sad, uneducated and therefore easily exploitable by addictive mechanics.
    They are no different than gambling thus they should be banned to minors.

    I hope in a world without mtx but it has to be that way because there is no market for them because people live a happy balanced life.
     
  2. Shifty Geezer

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    Please see my point about correct terminology above! ;)
     
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    i bet there's an entire department, specialized for designing the SFX, AFX, UI, etc for the loot box.

    all of the lootbox games i have ever played (not many tho...) have those utterly unbelievable over-produced effects. its like as if each box is the coming of God or something. To make things worse, there's no skip button :(

    so im forced to watch it, and to make things worse. IT DOES INVADE MY MIND. I used to think all of them are annoying. Then i just blank-minded on every lootbox screen. then i starts to think "whoa this looks neat".

    OMG MY MIND

    and im more than 30 years old! the visuals/audio still affect ME! yikes. i cant imagine how exploitative that is for kids


    EDIT: what weird is that i actually like lootbox rush in Destiny 1 raid. Despite it have pretty tame FX. when the icons starts to rolls, im as calm as usual, but then Vex Myth comes and WHOA im screaming like little kids.
     
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    Full ArsTechnica article: https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2019...ly-introduce-loot-box-pay-to-win-legislation/

    GOP, Dem Senators officially introduce loot box, “pay-to-win” legislation
    Expansive prohibitions could heavily impact large swathes of the game industry.

    Weeks ago, Senator Josh Hawley (R-Mo.) released an outline for the The Protecting Children from Abusive Games Act, aimed at stopping randomized loot boxes and pay-to-win mechanics in the game industry. Today, Hawley was joined by Ed Markey (D-Mass.) and Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.) in formally introducing that bill in the Senate, complete with an 18-page draft of its legislative text.

    Perhaps the most interesting portion of the bill attempts to define so-called "pay-to-win" mechanics in games. Those are defined broadly here as purchasable content that "assists a user in accomplishing an achievement within the game that can otherwise be accomplished without the purchase of such transaction" or which "permits a user to continue to access content of the game that had previously been accessible to the user but has been made inaccessible after the expiration of a timer or a number of gameplay attempts."

    For multiplayer games, this would also include any purchasable in-game content that "from the perspective of a reasonable user, provides a competitive advantage."

    As far as loot boxes are concerned, the act targets games where purchasable in-game content is randomized or partially randomized. This includes games where you purchase one item for the chance to purchase unknown or random items in the future, closing one potential loophole before it even starts.
     
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  5. Malo

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    I hope that even if it goes nowhere, it continues and brings much more attention to the issues. It would be awesome if the mobile market was completely upheaved by this type of control. The mobile market is a disgusting cesspit.
     
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    It's a bipartisan proposal. It refers to kids getting addicted to gambling.
    IMO there's no amount of lobbying that will stop this from happening.

    The ESA and ESRB can do all the acrobatics and gymnastics they want, this thing is unstoppable.
    It's not only common sense to stop children and teenagers from gambling in a casino, there's also no major party in the US that will be opposing this.
     
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    Does DLC of new weapons or vehicles count as pay-to-win? What about a time-limited trial-and-unlock title - you can play for free but then have to pay to continue?

    Gambling and in-game consumables need to be addressed, but I expect politicians to screw it up and make a dumb hash of it, and we'll have to go through a long, ugly process of trying to balance game finance with fair policy because they just plain aren't intelligent enough and impartial enough to come up with intelligent, well considered solutions.
     
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    Won't the definition of gambling have to be updated which could have implications beyond these games? I just don't see it happening, especially in a political environment controlled by big companies.
     
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    Sony getting into the LootBox business at SDCC:

     
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    You can buy a PS4 game or three with that amount of money. Unless they have some nice goodies in, this is stupid
     
  11. Silent_Buddha

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    There's a chance there will be a PS5 inside of one.

    Your chances to win a PS5. 1 in 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000. Your chance to win a T-shirt, all other chances. :p

    Regards,
    SB
     
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