Microsoft Project xCloud (Game Streaming)

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  1. turkey

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    No but it would not surprise me if the console did register itself into the Xcloud or Live, that way you can connect via the central server then that drops off giving you peer to peer access. This would help with firewall issues and is how many remote pc support applications work.
     
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    That's how a lot of things in azure work. It was shown that way at the 2008 Microsoft PDC (Professional Developers Conference) in Los Angeles. The initiall discovery is done via known connectable endpoints in Azure and then the two clients attempt to connect directly to one another. They only keep the connection to Azure in the event both sides are under extremely strict connection rules.
     
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    It was to be expected even in a controlled environment. Similar to what people have experienced with Stadia and PSNow.

    https://www.windowscentral.com/i-tried-project-xcloud-xboxs-e3-2019-show-it-real-it-insane
     
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    Here's the xCloud stations at their booth...



    Tommy McClain
     
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    Off-screen footage...



    Tommy McClain
     
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    ArsTechnica has some latency numbers from their quick & dirty test...

    https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2019...o-5-nearly-indistinguishable-from-local-play/

    Tommy McClain
     
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    Cuz reasons? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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    You think an 800 mile round trip, video compression and decompression could all happen in 4ms?
     
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    Yeah. I also had a perfect experience with psnow. But I'm not a dumbass thinking it's representative of the logical limitations. I live in a large city with under 10ms to tier 1 from most cable and dsl providers. Psnow is perfect here but it can't be that good where there is no low latency paths to edge nodes, i.e. most rural areas. Providers congestion algorithms are often shit and buffer bloat in most places, and there is nothing to be done at the server side.

    Google claim 7500 edge nodes for sativa and it probably reach only the big cities. MS is probably competitive. Sony uses amazon apparently, not sure what their plans are for edge nodes.
     
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    Sonys plan is to use MS azure/xcloud
     
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    You keep using that word. I do not think it is what you think it is.
     
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    Yes, but is it just to expand edge nodes and use all providers in parallel? They said they don't even have a partnership yet, just exploring possibilities. MS definitely have similar needs, so sharing edge nodes would be profitable for both. Sony could be their first non-internal client for that sort of deployment.
     
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    My point was you didn't explain why you thought that. Second, there's more than a zero chance it could be correct. If everything was equal then yeah you might have a point, but we don't know what's changed to Halo 5 since Digital Foundry did their latency tests in 2017. We also don't know what changes Microsoft have made on the xCloud side. We've heard reports of about 10ms latency added for xCloud. So if they improved the native latency of the game by just 6ms, then it would still be in the realm of plausibility. But what do I know I'm just an average Joe.

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    I thought it was self evident that an addition of only 4ms was not physically possible. Especially not after all the reports from people who said the lag was noticeable in the demo. An extra 4ms is not a noticeable difference.
     
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    Guys its not an apple to apple comparison they are testing now vs some test in 2017
    how much has the codebase changed in 2 years?
     
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    Using a different monitor is enough to offset these lag tests.

    The monitor and times used by DF are that configuration.

    The monitor and times used for XCloud was a different one.

    Apples 2 apples requires the same recording and display equipment.

    Nothing wrong with the report, just keep those considerations in mind when doing cross compare.
     
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    what does sativa means? Dont you mean stevia?
     
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    Yeah, there are more than 7500 sativa nodes in most cities.
     
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