But I still wont forgive him for the GeForce fx bull.
Forgive him? Hell, I still thank him for that!
It was just so much fun and so easy to tear down their arguments, they set themselves up to lose and they did it in glorious fashion. Those were some of the funnest times I can remember on the forums since the monster Rage3D thread of the late 90s over ATi where we raged at their lack of customer support/input! Yeah, ATi used to be dicks to their customers...they've come a LONG way and I'm pretty sure it's how I met most of my tightest friends in the industry still today...although I'd be lying if I didn't also tip my hat to the FX fiasco. It was just too easy to tear down their BS, hell I even managed to turn nVnews pro-ATi for a while before Mike got the word from above and kicked me out.
Again, EPIC FUN!!! I was a very bored stay-at-home dad with infants at the time with more passion than knowledge and I actually learned a hell of a lot through those ordeals and met/made a lot of friends throughout the community that I still count as dear friends today. I even consider Kyle a friend of mine no matter what his opinion of me. We first met at the Phenom launch in Tahoe and hit it right off before he even knew who I was, I mean we're both around the same age,
(he's probably younger and definitely in better shape and looking better than yours truly ), and while he might have been a bit Intel/nVidia and I might have been a tad more AMD/ATi,
(ahem, yeah I know. Psychotic fanboys is probably a better term, but let us not digress), we're both dads with a wife and young kids just starting off our families and we were both EXTREMELY in to gaming and gaming hardware. Doesn't matter who's your favorite in the PC gaming hardware world, if you're both in to PC hardware you'll find something to talk about and it's more fun to talk to people with differing opinions than yours..plus I recognize that he knows a lot more about the hardware than me and it was fascinating to pick his brain too and watch how it worked. He was sort of shocked at the time to find out I talk in real life just about exactly the same as I post on the forums...I've always lived with my heart on my sleeve, but it was the speed/diversity/enthusiasm that I think surprised him. Also surprised him when I properly introduced myself,
(my handle rather than my name, people tend to know me more in the community as digi that John. ), but we still had a good time and agreed that we both enjoyed sparring with each other on the forums.
I think it's good to talk to people you disagree with or hold contrary opinions with, it helps broaden your perspective and will often give you unexpected insights. I'm terrified of getting myself trapped in an information bubble, i've been trying to avoid Facebook and diversify my news sources more and even started checking out the ones I disagree with and hate...just to keep up with what they're thinking/doing.
Forgive Kyle for FX? Hell no! If he hadn't had the FX episode it wouldn't have exposed his bias so openly. I don't mind bias, as long as you admit to it and own it up front...but watching them contort themselves in to pretzels trying to defend the FX was just a most enjoyable time for me!
With a hat tip to Brent Justice for also adding to the fun and my overdue apologies to him for calling him "Bent Justice" during that time. I'm sorry, I was younger and stupider...but it was sort of funny.
Seriously though, you were/are one of the best GPU reviewers I know and I've almost always respected your work. The FX fiasco was definitely a fluke and not a feature, you are good and I wish you the best also.
Good, bad, right, or wrong; Kyle was a staple and a fixture in the community throughout and will always be a huge part of its history. I do respect that, and for him doing his best to stick to his principles while raising a family off doing what he does for a living. I do it just for fun so repercussions aren't that big a thing for me for pissing people off, but Kyle could have lost his livelihood a number of times for his stands and I do respect him for that.