Kill Bill 2

It was included as homage to those dumb animes that are loved by pimple-faced teenage boys.

tell me you don't really believe that thats the primary reason for the inclusion do you????


U're still comparing different movies to make your opinin appear "right". While all u're doing is making yourself look like an idiot.


so london-boy are you claiming it's not an Action Movie? because it didn;t seem to be one from where I was sitting, kinda felt like an pumped up time trip back to the 80's for me.

Next thing you know, we'll start comparing "Charlie's Angles" with "Rocky"...

maybe an better way of putting it would be raging bull to Rocky? their both got boxing in them,. closeups of brutal beatings etc....

If you want to pick out an more valid comparison then it's alot like Gunbuster.


EDIT:

OT the one thing that was really absent in the movie was te lack of any of QT's usual quatable dialogue. Kinda miss that part of his work.
 
notAFanB said:
OT the one thing that was really absent in the movie was te lack of any of QT's usual quatable dialogue. Kinda miss that part of his work.

"...do you want to penetrate me?"
"... ... ... yes..."
*STAB*
"...do you still want to penetrate me?"
 
The thing that PC-Engine doesn't get is that there are many reasons to like an action movie, not just how cool the fights and action sequences are.

Atmosphere?
Plot?
Depth?
Hidden things to notice? (samurai sword holsters in every seat on the Japanese airlie, that flies low over the city swaying back and forth? LOL).

KB was surreal, it felt like an alternate universe, with stretched stereotypes all over the place. KB2 was similar, but the stereotypes streched to the limit were more Sphaghetti westerns and kung fu movies, where the first was anime and non-kung fu Asian action movie stereotypes.

I also just get the feeling that PC-Engine has no sense of Nostalgia. Or at least of the sort that is highly referenced in these flics.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinon of a movie, so if for one person the #1 criterion is "realistic" big time action sequences, so be it.
( I have seen no action movie be very realistic in years... not everything blows up when shot at. Complaining about squirting blood? I might as well complain about cars blowing up all over the place like the seat cushions are made out of C-4, or the other highly abused action movie "unrealisms". )
 
It's a martial arts movie. What's the main draw of a martial arts movie? That's right, the fight scenes. Sorry but the fight scenes were pretty weak. Also the reason why the blood squirting was dumb was the way it was done. Some things just shouldn't be borrowed from cartoons unless it's to make a live action Bugs Bunny film.

The nastalgia thing was overdone, gimmick, aweful....didn't make me laugh at all. :LOL:
 
Well then that's you. Everyone in the cinema laughed pretty loud at certain moments (Pai Mei was the main source... hilarious).

The fact that you're still trying to make your "opinion" sound like the truth is much like you trying to get your opinion across when talking about products that you have purchased in the past and feel the need to defend to death by bashing its competitor's products in other forums of this boards..... ;)
 
london-boy said:
Well then that's you. Everyone in the cinema laughed pretty loud at certain moments (Pai Mei was the main source... hilarious).

The fact that you're still trying to make your "opinion" sound like the truth is much like you trying to get your opinion across when talking about products that you have purchased in the past and feel the need to defend to death by bashing its competitor's products in other forums of this boards..... ;)

No it's not just me man. There are people out there who thought it was dumb like Zurich. Maybe the average Joe got their cheap laughs from seeing the movie but not me. The only person here who is taking my opinions as truth is you, because you are the one trying to defend the movie because you went to see it a zillion times ;)

If KB was a Columbia Tristar movie then your conspiracy theory might hold water, but as of right now it's a desparate attempt by you to defend a movie you paid to see a zillion times :LOL: ;)
 
PC-Engine said:
london-boy said:
Well then that's you. Everyone in the cinema laughed pretty loud at certain moments (Pai Mei was the main source... hilarious).

The fact that you're still trying to make your "opinion" sound like the truth is much like you trying to get your opinion across when talking about products that you have purchased in the past and feel the need to defend to death by bashing its competitor's products in other forums of this boards..... ;)

No it's not just me man. There are people out there who thought it was dumb like Zurich. Maybe the average Joe got their cheap laughs from seeing the movie but not me. The only person here who is taking my opinions as truth is you, because you are the one trying to defend the movie because you went to see it a zillion times ;)

If KB was a Columbia Tristar movie then your conspiracy theory might hold water, but as of right now it's a desparate attempt by you to defend a movie you paid to see a zillion times :LOL: ;)


And again, ur attacks might hold some water if i actually spent any money on those times i went to watch it....
 
Regardless, the gist is that you went to see it a ZILLION times. A fanatic will defend their choices whether paid for or not ;)

I'm not the one defending my choice. As a matter of fact I admitted to making a bad choice for paying full price...
 
PC-Engine said:
Regardless, the gist is that you went to see it a ZILLION times. A fanatic will defend their choices whether paid for or not ;)

I'm not the one defending my choice. As a matter of fact I admitted to making a bad choice for paying full price...


Blah Blah Blah. Look, PcEngine, U'RE RIGHT.
 
It's a martial arts movie. What's the main draw of a martial arts movie?

I am glad to see you have already decided what the movie should be and it's relative merits before you've seen something!

There are people out there who thought it was dumb like Zurich. Maybe the average Joe got their cheap laughs from seeing the movie but not me.

so all of us whom enjoyed the movie are pigeon wholed as 'joes' now are we? great way to rationalise.

Some things just shouldn't be borrowed from cartoons unless it's to make a live action Bugs Bunny film.

... I think that is up to the Artist in general, but if you feel so strongly about it lobby to have this soldified in law if you want.
 
I've seen Vol 1 and the consensus so far is that Vol 1 is better than Vol 2, therefore my impressions based solely on Vol 1 is justified. ;)
 
PC-Engine said:
I've seen Vol 1 and the consensus so far is that Vol 1 is better than Vol 2, therefore my impressions based solely on Vol 1 is justified. ;)

What consensus?

Nearly everyone I know says the opposite.
 
I thought V2 was much better then V1. It (V2) rates up their with some of the better movies' I've seen. In the first one, the blood splatter annoyed the crap out of me. YES I KNOW WHY IT'S THERE. The fact that I know why it was put in doesn't magically make it look less stupid. Totally blew whatever ability to suspend disbelief I still had remaining at that point. "But, that's how it was done in anime/70's Samurai flicks" So what? It looked stupid then/there, and it looks equally retarded now.
 
Geeforcer said:
In the first one, the blood splatter annoyed the crap out of me. YES I KNOW WHY IT'S THERE. The fact that I know why it was put in doesn't magically make it look less stupid. Totally blew whatever ability to suspend disbelief I still had remaining at that point. "But, that's how it was done in anime/70's Samurai flicks" So what? It looked stupid then/there, and it looks equally retarded now.

My thoughts EXACTLY! One scene with the blood squirting was enough to make a point, but after the 2nd, 3rd, 4th...
 
I saw it last night (Vol 2).
I thought it was damn good.
The only downside was this huge guy sitting in the last row of the theatre, taking up 3 seats and laughing all the damn time, so loud everyone could hear him.
And laughing at totally un-funny times. And the funny ones. And sometimes for no goddamn reason at all.

AND - his laughs sounded EXACTLY like Jabba the Hutt. Seriously. It was creepy, he sounded exactly like him.
 
Geeforcer said:
I thought V2 was much better then V1. It (V2) rates up their with some of the better movies' I've seen. In the first one, the blood splatter annoyed the crap out of me. YES I KNOW WHY IT'S THERE. The fact that I know why it was put in doesn't magically make it look less stupid. Totally blew whatever ability to suspend disbelief I still had remaining at that point. "But, that's how it was done in anime/70's Samurai flicks" So what? It looked stupid then/there, and it looks equally retarded now.

This is a fair criticism, and Geeforcer probably should not have to defend his opinion.

I can see how for some people, the blood and stuff in V1 might mess up your suspension of disbelief.

it is perfectly fair to say that some elements of the movie ruined it for yourself. Its your opinion, your experience.

But PC-Engine doesn't get it. To him his opinion still = reality, others opinions are never equally valid.

I wouldn't call it a "martial arts movie." And I wouldn't say that the main draw of a martial arts movie is the fight scenes.
EDIT: But its ok that for PC-Engine, that is how he sees it. For him, that is what it should have been and why to watch.
But not for me. Some others are more like his view, some others more like mine. I don't care, we all can discuss what we liked and didn't and accept that we aren't the same, cant we?

For me, the "draw" of each movie is unique, some times its the comedy, sometimes the figting, sometimes drama. Only movies that are intended to fit a pre-defined template, could one possibly say before seeing the movie what the "draw" is. And trying to expect QT to fit a pre-defined template is not a good idea.

And for me, I'd much rather see a movie that does something new that hasn't been done before, and does it well than see exactly what I expected, just like 10 others I've already seen.

And then there is the difference between the expected draw (expectations), and the reason you liked or disliked a movie. Long ago I learned that the worst way to ruin a movie is to have too many expectations and judge it by them. Instead, I find that the appeal or dislike for a movie is almost always somewhat unexpected, and its the joy (or disgust) of discovering what that is that makes or breaks a movie.

That being said, I have no problems with those who want to judge the movie based on how much it lived up to their expectations, and deem that it wasn't the martial arts movie they wanted it to be. Or that certain elements were too distracting.
However, those who apply their personal expectations and opinions as some sort of universal movie benchmark and gospel for the world to go by just need to chill out and accept that opinions are like assholes, everyone's got one.
 
Back
Top