In this thread you WILL guess Naomi 3 specs
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I guess a rimless I-design, made of titanium, with lavender-tinted bi-focal lenses. 
Megadrive1988
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at least two PowerVR5 (Series 5) GPUs.
no need for seperate geometry & lighting (T&L) unit this time,
since PowerVR5 should have on-chip geometry & lighting engines
(Vertex Shaders) like all modern GPUs.
If two GPUs are used in NAOMI 3, that means less individual
graphics chips for NAOMI 3 compared to NAOMI 2 which had 3
(1 ELAN + 2 PowerVR2DCs)
memory.... well NAOMI 2 had what, 104 MB ? [ 32 + 32 + 32 + 8 ]
or was it around 136 MB [ 32 + 32 + 32 + 32 + 8 ] I'm not certain.
so at least 256 MB, bare minimum, for NAOMI 3.
I don't want to guess the CPU. well ok I will half guess. SH5? SH6?
Athlon 64? PowerPC?
we should see a huge leap from NAOMI 2. a larger leap than from NAOMI to NAOMI 2 since N1 and N2 shared the same generation of rasterizer and same CPU. N2 got a second rasterizer, the ELAN T&L unit, and more RAM.
all for roughly a 3x to 4x leap from N1. the N3 should be at the very least, a 10x leap from N2. which is not even really a ballpark estimate. I say this because we're skipping two generations of PowerVR: PowerVR3 and PowerVR4.
no need for seperate geometry & lighting (T&L) unit this time,
since PowerVR5 should have on-chip geometry & lighting engines
(Vertex Shaders) like all modern GPUs.
If two GPUs are used in NAOMI 3, that means less individual
graphics chips for NAOMI 3 compared to NAOMI 2 which had 3
(1 ELAN + 2 PowerVR2DCs)
memory.... well NAOMI 2 had what, 104 MB ? [ 32 + 32 + 32 + 8 ]
or was it around 136 MB [ 32 + 32 + 32 + 32 + 8 ] I'm not certain.
so at least 256 MB, bare minimum, for NAOMI 3.
I don't want to guess the CPU. well ok I will half guess. SH5? SH6?
Athlon 64? PowerPC?
we should see a huge leap from NAOMI 2. a larger leap than from NAOMI to NAOMI 2 since N1 and N2 shared the same generation of rasterizer and same CPU. N2 got a second rasterizer, the ELAN T&L unit, and more RAM.
all for roughly a 3x to 4x leap from N1. the N3 should be at the very least, a 10x leap from N2. which is not even really a ballpark estimate. I say this because we're skipping two generations of PowerVR: PowerVR3 and PowerVR4.
qwerty2000
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What is the NAOMI?
Naomi 3 is still in the works from what I know, of course it may get an entirely new name. Hell, Model 4 has been put on the backburner for 5 years now.
Sammy isn't stupid when it comes to the arcade, at least they appear not to be. Naomi 3 is still being developed (at least I've received no official or unofficial info on cancellation) and is going to be SEGA's primary board in the upcoming years.
Sammy isn't stupid when it comes to the arcade, at least they appear not to be. Naomi 3 is still being developed (at least I've received no official or unofficial info on cancellation) and is going to be SEGA's primary board in the upcoming years.
Megadrive1988
Veteran
Sonic:
according to Next Generation magazine November 1995, page 14:
so if we can trust Next Generation / EDGE magazine, and they seemed
pretty reliable in their early years, when Model 3 was completed in 1995, Lockheed started on Model 4..
VF3 hit arcades in '96 but Model 3 was done in '95, it was shown at JAMMA '96 in May, so yeah it had to have been finished in 1995.
I dunno how that jives with what you know of Model 4 at Sega, but anyway, I thought I'd just mention that. it's the only thing on Model 4 I know of
according to Next Generation magazine November 1995, page 14:
so if we can trust Next Generation / EDGE magazine, and they seemed
pretty reliable in their early years, when Model 3 was completed in 1995, Lockheed started on Model 4..
VF3 hit arcades in '96 but Model 3 was done in '95, it was shown at JAMMA '96 in May, so yeah it had to have been finished in 1995.
I dunno how that jives with what you know of Model 4 at Sega, but anyway, I thought I'd just mention that. it's the only thing on Model 4 I know of
Megadrive1988
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well, Lockheed Real3D was still around in 1996-1997, so I would think that they were doing Model 4 at the time.... maybe when Sega saw what Videologic could do in 1997, basicly rivaling and surpassing Model 3 performance (though not in every area of image quality) for a small fraction of the cost, Sega dumped Lockheed altogether, even for arcade.
qwerty2000:
The platform was a new initiative aimed at having a more reliable, affordable, swappable, expandable, and standardized solution for arcades. It also formed a unification among PowerVR PC and console platforms. Atomiswave seems to be an extended initiative.
The new board will have a lot of RAM.
Having the SEGA studios brought back in-house is not a change from the SEGA that's brought many classic games of the past. The studio spin-off was simply an accounting move to make each team responsible for developing profitable projects, and it was only a fairly recent move dating from the start of the DC.
NAOMI is an acronym that stands for New Arcade Operation Machine Idea. In Japanese, the name means something like "beauty above all others".
The platform was a new initiative aimed at having a more reliable, affordable, swappable, expandable, and standardized solution for arcades. It also formed a unification among PowerVR PC and console platforms. Atomiswave seems to be an extended initiative.
The new board will have a lot of RAM.
The main reason behind their creativity is talent.
Having the SEGA studios brought back in-house is not a change from the SEGA that's brought many classic games of the past. The studio spin-off was simply an accounting move to make each team responsible for developing profitable projects, and it was only a fairly recent move dating from the start of the DC.
Hmm, ok SegaR&D, tell me if I'm even close.
State of the Art Motorola 68000 & Top of the Line Intel 8086 both running parallel forming the back bone of GPU & CPU processors.
A full 64K of ram.
A 10in floppy (so it won't be obsoleted by 8 track cassette drives a year later)
Support for monochromatic monitors (green OR amber!)
Piezo electric speaker!
Am I close?
State of the Art Motorola 68000 & Top of the Line Intel 8086 both running parallel forming the back bone of GPU & CPU processors.
A full 64K of ram.
A 10in floppy (so it won't be obsoleted by 8 track cassette drives a year later)
Support for monochromatic monitors (green OR amber!)
Piezo electric speaker!
Am I close?
Megadrive1988
Veteran
haha
The NAOMI 3
CPU : SH-4 128-bit RISC CPU
Graphic Engine : Custom PowerVR @ 200 MHz
Graphic Engine performance: 1024 ALU ops per cycle
Sound Engine : ARM7 Yamaha AICA 45 MHZ
Main Memory : 512 MByte 100Mhz SDRAM
Graphic Memory : 512 MByte
Sound Memory : 8 MByte
Media : ROM Board / GD-Rom
CPU : SH-4 128-bit RISC CPU
Graphic Engine : Custom PowerVR @ 200 MHz
Graphic Engine performance: 1024 ALU ops per cycle
Sound Engine : ARM7 Yamaha AICA 45 MHZ
Main Memory : 512 MByte 100Mhz SDRAM
Graphic Memory : 512 MByte
Sound Memory : 8 MByte
Media : ROM Board / GD-Rom
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