IBM to produce Nvidia chips

[Evildeus]

Where are these reports of 'problems' for RV350 coming from?

Where are they though? :?

 

[Evildeus]

IBM are attacking TSMC and UMC with a nasty pricing war. Seems like winning the nvidia contract has emboldened them alot!!

Here.

Interesting 8)

 

[Dave Baumann]

Where are they though? :?

Well, I know where a few of em are!

IBM are attacking TSMC and UMC with a nasty pricing war. Seems like winning the nvidia contract has emboldened them alot!!

Here.

Interesting 8)

Well, what is interesting is that its now going to .15um processes, which will (hopefully) have direct ramifications on some GFX products. The question is whether NVIDIA will be offered more attractive .15um pricings by TSMC or not, seeing as they have gone with IBM for other processes - presumably they will, as they won't want to loose that business as well.

 

[Evildeus]

Where are they though? :?

Well, I know where a few of em are!

Perhaps you know, but as it seems that your relationship with Ati is better than with Nvidia, nevertheless you put up the review of the NV31 before the RV350, makes me wonder

 

[Evildeus]

Well, what is interesting is that its now going to .15um processes, which will (hopefully) have direct ramifications on some GFX products. The question is whether NVIDIA will be offered more attractive .15um pricings by TSMC or not, seeing as they have gone with IBM for other processes - presumably they will, as they won't want to loose that business as well.

I think that the consequences on the IBM' 0.13um processes are more interesting from my point of view

 

[Dave Baumann]

I have a good rel with NVIDIA Europe. However, Euro PR usually have fewer boards, initially, than the US PR - they know I like to spend a little time testing the boards so I'm happy to wait a while for them to have either sent boards around the other Euro sites or they get more reference boards in from the US.

As for 9600 - who says they are from ATI?

 

[Evildeus]

Nobody Ati and Nvidia are generic names including the partners from my part

Well, i'll be surprise if we can find any 9600 or 5600 boards before the end of april in France

 

[DegustatoR]

DaveBaumann

Where are these reports of 'problems' for RV350 coming from?

Sorry, can't say But there still aren't ANY officially released benchmarks of R9600/Pro and the RV350-chip was introduced a month ago. All this can mean only one thing: ATI is still working on it, doing new revisions. And (from my info) they aren't very happy with these revisions in light of NV31 AND NV36 coming out in June-July.

Well, I know where a few of em are!

These are not final even if they are working properly

Evildeus

Well, i'll be surprise if we can find any 9600 or 5600 boards before the end of april in France

I wouldn't be so sure about 5600...

 

[Dave Baumann]

But there still aren't ANY officially released benchmarks of R9600/Pro and the RV350-chip was introduced a month ago.

That because they are NDA'd. Chips are final now.

 

[nAo]

Final specs (core/mem clock) doesn't mean final chips, doesn't it?

 

[Evildeus]

Hehe paper launch? 8)

 

[Dave Baumann]

Final specs (core/mem clock) doesn't mean final chips, doesn't it?

Eh?

 

[Arun]

Sorry, can't say But there still aren't ANY officially released benchmarks of R9600/Pro and the RV350-chip was introduced a month ago. All this can mean only one thing: ATI is still working on it, doing new revisions. And (from my info) they aren't very happy with these revisions in light of NV31 AND NV36 coming out in June-July.

Good idea for saying "officially", considering how I released RV350 benchies a few days after the announcement. The source I've got that info from is always VERY fast - much faster than all other info I've seen.

Anyway, do you have any info which indicates the NV36 will be available in July? Or is that just speculation?


Uttar

 

[nAo]

Eh?

Your sample may have final specs , but may be not final as chip revision.

 

[Pete]

OK, but Dave specifically said "chips are final now."

 

[Dave Baumann]

OK, but Dave specifically said "chips are final now."

Thanks Pete

 

[DegustatoR]

That because they are NDA'd. Chips are final now.

OK, let's just wait then... But for what? FX5600s in retial? Or NV36 in retail?..

Good idea for saying "officially", considering how I released RV350 benchies a few days after the announcement.

That's why I said "officially". Those benches weren't final, ATI is trying to speed up/cost down RV350 right now and they've ran (according to my info) into some troubles with this.

Anyway, do you have any info which indicates the NV36 will be available in July? Or is that just speculation?

Nope, that's a solid info (though it may change at every minute). Don't sure about "available", but we should see at least an announcment of NV36 in June. NV isn't very happy with NV31 in the same way as with NV30, so they want a very fast product change. Till the end of the year there should be NV34 - NV36 - NV35 product line, NV30 and NV31 should be dead.

But you should remember NV30 fiasko What NV want doesn't always convert nicely in what NV gets...

 

[Evildeus]

That because they are NDA'd. Chips are final now.

OK, let's just wait then... But for what? FX5600s in retial? Or NV36 in retail?

I think dave was speaking about the RV350

 

[MuFu]

Till the end of the year there should be NV34 - NV36 - NV35 product line, NV30 and NV31 should be dead.

Hey that sounds familiar.

MuFu.

 

[elroy]

Any chance we'll see NV36 announced at the same time as NV35?