HYPOTHETICAL: R420 two months earlier than nV40?
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ben6 said:
I think you're either guessing or you're being mis-informed by nVidia, that's way too early.
digitalwanderer said:ben6 said:
I think you're either guessing or you're being mis-informed by nVidia, that's way too early.
Eh I ain't playing that game
. And manufacturers don't generally at the end of February/beginning of March change a launch/release till 3-6 months down the line.Going on past experience the only thing assured is that NVIDIA will not compromise on clockspeed and memory bandwidth. Whether this will be enough to beat ATI is another story as it did not help NVIDIA in this generation of cards.
It looks like NVIDIA has played the 'fabrication' issue line once too often (or perhaps NVIDIA's fans have) and this time it looks like it was time to go back to the drawing board. However if anyone thinks that 18 months (or less) is enough time to design a new GPU from virtually the ground up then they are in for a shock.
I personally am willing to bet more of the same designwise from both NVIDIA and ATI.
I do not have any insider information for my feelings apart from my guts so I hope no one takes my gut instincts as to be set in stone...
As always time will tell but NVIDIA is a hugely aggresive company (perhaps too aggressive in certain departments) and they could surprise a few people when their next card is released. I just expect it to be late that is all.
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It looks like NVIDIA has played the 'fabrication' issue line once too often (or perhaps NVIDIA's fans have) and this time it looks like it was time to go back to the drawing board. However if anyone thinks that 18 months (or less) is enough time to design a new GPU from virtually the ground up then they are in for a shock.
I personally am willing to bet more of the same designwise from both NVIDIA and ATI.
I do not have any insider information for my feelings apart from my guts so I hope no one takes my gut instincts as to be set in stone...
As always time will tell but NVIDIA is a hugely aggresive company (perhaps too aggressive in certain departments) and they could surprise a few people when their next card is released. I just expect it to be late that is all.
Edit: typos
ben6 said:Eh I ain't playing that game
Nuts! Please don't blame a guy for trying.
Here's a bit more kerosene for your flame, dig.
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1558,1550266,00.asp
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1558,1550266,00.asp
StealthHawk
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Tahir said:
I would say that NV30 compromised memory bandwidth in a major way. Memory clockspeed however, was a different matter which I agree about. NVIDIA always(?) has higher core and memory clocks than ATI does.
kemosabe said:Here's a bit more kerosene for your flame, dig.
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1558,1550266,00.asp
ROFLMFAO~~~~
Sounds like someone from nVidia has been reading these boards and decided it was time to start pushing FUD about the date!
BTW-The info is probably close to right, they just got the company names switched wrong way 'round.
ExtremeTech said:
It might be right...
kemosabe said:Here's a bit more kerosene for your flame, dig.
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1558,1550266,00.asp
The million dollar question is - Would that date be a paper launch, previews with working hardware, or cards available in the shops?
I know which option I'd guess at...
THe_KELRaTH
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Their launch dates probably all went to pot with the cancellation of Comdex Canada
I'm wondering if they launch at the same time as Doom 3, meaning that:Hanners said:kemosabe said:Here's a bit more kerosene for your flame, dig.
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1558,1550266,00.asp
The million dollar question is - Would that date be a paper launch, previews with working hardware, or cards available in the shops?
I know which option I'd guess at...
A. bundle deal
B. D3 might be available for a week or so with NV40s before it was available alone
C. maybe three weeks to a month before retail availability
That wouldn't surprise me.
The Baron said:I'm wondering if they launch at the same time as Doom 3, meaning that:Hanners said:kemosabe said:Here's a bit more kerosene for your flame, dig.
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1558,1550266,00.asp
The million dollar question is - Would that date be a paper launch, previews with working hardware, or cards available in the shops?
I know which option I'd guess at...
A. bundle deal
B. D3 might be available for a week or so with NV40s before it was available alone
C. maybe three weeks to a month before retail availability
That wouldn't surprise me.
There is new content on the DoomIII site . . . and links to stores offering preorders.
That's the same content that's been there for months...
Being a Catalyst beta tester, I have noticed that ATI is steadily upgrading its software to make it more competitive. You all must have noticed the new Rotation feature, or the minor aesthetic improvements that have existed in 4.2+ drivers (such as new backgrounds in installations and all).
Now, what has been done so far may seem rather trivial, however I know that ATI is preparing itself for some major updates in that matter...updates of some kind. I thus expect R420 to coincide more or less with the release of those updates...
May timeline.
Now, what has been done so far may seem rather trivial, however I know that ATI is preparing itself for some major updates in that matter...updates of some kind. I thus expect R420 to coincide more or less with the release of those updates...
May timeline.
Striker said:
Well as far as I can tell its basically the same/the same as the rotation tool thats been in the drivers for ages but could only be enabled using something like rage3dtweak or going into the registry
Do I hear further implication of app specific graphics settings coming with the R420
I think people are all a little confused about this rotation feature - IIRC it has always been there but previously it only appear if your display device reported back that it had rotation features. Becuase most peoples monitors don't, it never appeared - likewise reviewers would sit there and see the rotation panel in NVIDIA's drivers and not in ATI's and report that ATI lacked rotation features. I think ATI have just turned off the dependancy on a monitor actually supporting rotation features to the drivers displauing the panel so these review issues wouldn't emerge each time, which is a bit silly seeing as I think that dependancy makes some sense.
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