Game over for PSX

an update for the PSX that can write down recorded material on your duo stick in PSP compatible format! (as far as I understand)
record program with your PSX, insert card, copy , insert in psp.instant movie acces

i didn't know the psx had a duo slot ? maybe yes for fotoplayback
 
It's Alive!!!

It wouldn't necessarily need a DUO slot, as you can use DUO MemorySticks in a standard slot with an adaptor that comes with most DUO cards when you buy them.

Or maybe it's via the USB port. Is the USB now 2.0 in PSX?

That is quite a good addition to PSX, certainly makes it more lucrative to me now if ever it would come to europe.
If the PSX is really able to transfer a recorded tv show directly to PSP memorystick without the need for fiddling with a separate conversion sotware, doing all the coversions to resolution automatically, I can see I'd use the PSP quite a lot for viewing recorded tv material.

Perhaps the PS3 will have this function too.
 
So a shoddy DVR suddenly becomes an attractive DVR because it has the ability to transfer DVD movies to MS now? Yeah I can see people scrambling for this $700 movie conversion PSX ver 2. Why not just release a piece of conversion software for PS2 with a memory card to MS adaptor? Why resurrect a deservedly dead product?
 
PC-Engine said:
So a shoddy DVR suddenly becomes an attractive DVR because it has the ability to transfer DVD movies to MS now? Yeah I can see people scrambling for this $700 movie conversion PSX ver 2. Why not just release a piece of conversion software for PS2 with a memory card to MS adaptor? Why resurrect a deservedly dead product?

Well, technically it's not dead, besides, if you don't like it, don't buy it. Sony makes electronics, are you gonna tell them they need to stop making electronics, because the new one only has a slight feature over the last version? Everyone should stop making and selling TVs and DVD players then... Or Microwaves. :|
 
why is it deservedly DEAD PRODUKT?

i see different brand DVD + HD recording devices popping here and there for 550-650euro. it's not that the psx is that expensiv ..? maybe they released to soon and isn't apealing mass market because of the high price
 
london-boy said:
PC-Engine said:
So a shoddy DVR suddenly becomes an attractive DVR because it has the ability to transfer DVD movies to MS now? Yeah I can see people scrambling for this $700 movie conversion PSX ver 2. Why not just release a piece of conversion software for PS2 with a memory card to MS adaptor? Why resurrect a deservedly dead product?

Well, technically it's not dead, besides, if you don't like it, don't buy it. Sony makes electronics, are you gonna tell them they need to stop making electronics, because the new one only has a slight feature over the last version? Everyone should stop making and selling TVs and DVD players then... Or Microwaves. :|

The point is nobody is buying it. Why waste time and money pushing something that doesn't move? Why not use those resources to sell something that will move? Like the idea I provided?

hey69 said:
why is it deservedly DEAD PRODUKT?

i see different brand DVD + HD recording devices popping here and there for 550-650euro. it's not that the psx is that expensiv ..? maybe they released to soon and isn't apealing mass market because of the high price

Because nobody is buying it. It's a shoddy product that's over priced. Do some research on it. Better yet put your money where your mouth is if you think it's a great product. ;)
 
PC-Engine said:
The point is nobody is buying it PSX. Why waste time and money pushing something that doesn't move? Why not use those resources to sell something that will move? Like the idea I provided?

Because nobody is buying it. It's a shoddy product that's over priced. Do some research on it. Better yet put your money where your mouth is if you think it's a great product. ;)


Ok, so Sony wants to sell DVRs units, they sell one that doesn't sell, they updater that one to maybe attract more customers, and... Where is the problem again?
Do they have to stop selling DVRs altogether? Would that make you happy? :|
 
Did (does) the PSX have some faults that make it a shoddy pvr?
I really haven't seen any reviews for it, are there some faults in the design that makes it inferior to other HD+DVD recorders, other than price?
 
rabidrabbit said:
Did (does) the PSX have some faults that make it a shoddy pvr?
I really haven't seen any reviews for it, are there some faults in the design that makes it inferior to other HD+DVD recorders, other than price?

Yes one example is it doesn't have DV/IEEE1395/iLink/Firewire input. Any person spending $700 on a DVD recorder expects a IEEE1395/iLink/Firewire input. That's just talking about the PVR side. The PS2 side has issues too. There's a thread in here listing the issues.

maskrider said:
It is still a very cheap HDD/DVD recorder, and this kind of stuffs have never sold a lot.

All in all, the execution is pretty bad, you can see the laundry list of problems (even after the latest 3/31 update).

It has indeed gone out of my expectation :)) just a little bit over my expectations, bad execution on cheap gimmick products like I said before), and indeed I read about it on 3/27 on a Chinese forum about the news on "Nikkei Shimbun". I was just wondering when will people post this as I was too lazy to dig the old "PSX details" thread out.

From DCharlie at GA Forum

"Time for another PSX rant :

Well, the biggest issue (IMO) is the total lack of cable support coupled with the absolute shocking fact that you can only take line in from RCA.

EVEN THOUGH THERE IS AN SVIDEO INPUT(!!!!)

So if you have cable/non-bs satellite, then you are basically going to be HD-Recording a shitty signal and you can't use any sort of automated recording.

The DVD record speed was also a total distortion. I remember people going "HOLY SHIT!!! 24x DVD Recording!!!", but when it came out it only initially had "8x DVD recording" - but - the speed is IN COMPARISON TO CDR speeds. So - 8x DVD = 1x DVD.

Under the first drivers - it took an age to burn a DVD
Under the second drivers - it took 5 minutes less than an age to burn

When playing games and swapping out back to tv , the whole system has to reset itself. You can't play another game or move through the menus for around 1-2 minutes.

The Atrac burning speed is pretty slow.
MP3 playback is supposedly added, but that doesn't seem to be true either.

Switching channels sometimes means that sound is dropped altogether and the unit has to be reset. (This happens pretty often)

the location of the ports is a good idea (hide them away from the sleek from system) - but the ridge around them makes it a pain in the arse to plug/unplug stuff. Granted - you shouldn't really be doing this.

I thought the pad that came with the PSX is already busted. The left shoulder button is flakey, and the right analogue stick keeps playing up.
Plugged in a different pad and the same issues existed. Hmmm. Seems to be very tempremental.

Has a nasty habit of ignoring the fact that i chose the Foreign language track for certain broadcasts, meaning i have quite a few films recorded in Japanese. . The new drivers apparently support dual language recording.

Forget to set up your 40gig PS2 HDD part. and you have to delete your entire HDD contents.

About a minute wait before the unit actually starts to play a PS2 game.

etc etc etc...

It's a nice idea, it looks slick, it makes part of my life easier (recording late night anime and stuff) , but if i was to go back in time i would advise myself to put the extra cash to the cost of the PSX and get a proper HDD recorder."

Another from him.

"one thing i did read (don't have the source) was that they expected all the glitches and patches to be installable and the machine to be fully functional at the specs/abilities that were announced pre launch near the end of the year (!!!!!)"
 
Though a nice feature/smart addition, it sounds like it might be crippled...
gi.biz said:
by the reportedly slow speed at which the system encodes video for the PSP, which means it could take more than an hour to save a 20 minute TV show onto a Memory Stick.
I guess 66 million polys/sec isn't any good at MPEG4 encoding!
 
Shifty Geezer said:
Though a nice feature/smart addition, it sounds like it might be crippled...
gi.biz said:
by the reportedly slow speed at which the system encodes video for the PSP, which means it could take more than an hour to save a 20 minute TV show onto a Memory Stick.
I guess 66 million polys/sec isn't any good at MPEG4 encoding!

That's the final nail in the PSX coffin.

Also thanks for posting that. I guess my idea for a PS2 DVD ripper software wouldn't work too well either considering the speeds mentioned. This is pretty baffling though. The EE has 6.2GFLOPS and it takes that friggen long to encode MPEG4?
 
PC-Engine said:
The EE has 6.2GFLOPS and it takes that friggen long to encode MPEG4?

I don't think it was ever meant for that kind of task, when it was designed. Besides, is FLOPs rating exclusively indicative of performance in MPEG4 conversions?
 
PC-Engine said:
That's the final nail in the PSX coffin.

I'm not sure there are room for anymore, at least not from you..

Seems that Sony doesn't give a fuck since this is their 3rd upgrade/update on a product that has been pronounced dead quite a few times.

To bad i can't buy it and have to make do with a Panasonic recorder with a 80GB hd @ $800-900
 
Doesn't the PSX have dedicated hardware for all it's non-gaming functions? AFAIK, it's a crappy PVR with a PS2 slapped in. A perfect example of why convergence devices suck.
 
There sertainly seems to have been enough issues with the PSX.
Had I been thinking of buying one, those would have likely changed my mind. the lack of Firewire would have been the least of issues, but the buggy and clumsy operation would have been major minuses.
I have little tolerance to buggy home entertainment electronics. I've already returned to shops 5 different make DVB boxes because they all had some bugs in software that made the daily use a pain.

It's a bit odd that they were able to come up with such buggy hardware. As the "real" Sony HD+DVD recorders work smoothly, and the Sony electronics division was, if I remember correct, partly responsible for the PSX design, you'd think they would have been able to make a working product.

Was it because the PS2 chipset was just not up to the task? Or did they try to cram too much (ok, even though it had features lacking ;) ) into one device whilst trying to keep the price low (I do think the price was low compared to other 160Gig HD+DVD recorders at that time)

Still, most of the faults look like they could have been easily corrected with a bit more product testing.
 
if it was sold over here in the shops, i know quite a few who would buy this instead of a similar JVC or Philips.

and yes I would considir it also but dont have money , i'm poor
 
The PSX seemed pretty cool when it was announced. Big HDD at a reasonable price. This at a time when most PVRs were 80 GB max and the norm was 40 GB. But really, who cares about price, size of the harddrive or PS2 functionality when the product is completely botched.
 
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