Game Informer's E3 Grades + Review Scores

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Hardknock

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E3 Scores

Nintendo - A-
MS - A
Sony - C+

Scores:
GOTM: New Super Mario Bros.
PCGOTM: Rise of Nations: Rise of Legends

X-Men: The Official Game: 4 / SO 5
Urban Chaos: Riot Response: 7.75 / SO 7.5
The Da Vinci Code: 6 / SO 6
Gallop Racer 2006: 6.75
Sreet Fighter Alpha Anthology: 7.5
Naruto: Ultimate Ninja: 6.5
Table Tennis: 8 / SO 7.25
Moto GP '06: 8.75
Hitman: Blood Money: 7.75
Rise of Nations: Rise of Legends - 9.5 / SO 9.5 (PCGOTM)
SiN Episodes: Emergence: - 7.75 / SO 7
Paradise: 5.25
Darwinia: 7.5
Heroes of Might & Magic V: 8.25 / SO 7.5
New Super Mario Bros: 9.25 / SO 9.25 (GOTM)
Tomb Raider: Legend (PSP): 8.25 / 8
The Legend of Heroes II: 6
Lemmings: 7.25

Loose Talk
Wii no price at E3 because the vertical sensor isnt finished on the controller. Company doesnt have known price for system until this is known. Also some peripheral for racing game that would make them easier to handle being considered.

Jurassic Park logo spotted on a monitor in a meeting room behind closed doors at E3 booth. Movie on marketplace download? questions questions.

EA is making System Shock 3 since they have rights to the name. Godfather team is making it.

Kutargi's chose the games shown at E3 himself and he chose the developers that were close to him and not the good stuff.

PS3 losing exclusives: GI hears Assasins Creed and Mercenaries 2 will be announced for 360.
 
Hardknock said:
PS3 losing exclusives: GI hears Assasins Creed and Mercenaries 2 will be announced for 360.
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:cool: Never saw that comin!

Grades are bang-on by the way.
 
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Exactly what exclusives is Sony losing?
GTA used to be a "timed exclusive", now it's coming simultaneously on PS3 and xb360. Ok, that could count as somewhat a loss for Sony as a company, but hardly a loss to the gamers.
Assasins Creek at the moment sounds to be at least a "timed exclusive", so a gain to Sony but doesn't really matter to gamers.
Other "lost exclusives".... can't think of any.

Another publication getting into the sensationalist "Sony doomed" bandwagon based on one or two selected minor company drawbacks. Yawn and meh. Even more yawn and meh because nowadays these publications seem to base their articles on internet forum rumours. Guess they need to be able to compete somehow... but it's kinda pathetic.
 
LOL I love the whole 'whoever said Mercs and Assasins were exclusive?" act.

Meanwhile, I get neg repped, and argued against by 10 different people when I tried to point out these common sense facts a month ago. Whatever happend to the 'well the logo's not on their website so it's not in development' logic? ;)
 
Assassin's Creed has always been a matter of when, not if.

A dev working on Mercs 2 inadvertently let slip that right now they're working on PS3 and PC versions. No 360 skeleton in the closet - yet. But if it can happen on 360, I'm sure it will. There isn't a smell of Sony money around it right now.
 
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bRoNx said:
I didn't know they were theirs to lose in the first place!?! I though they were gonna be released on all consoles! :?:
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rabidrabbit said:
Exactly what exclusives is Sony losing?
GTA used to be a "timed exclusive", now it's coming simultaneously on PS3 and xb360. Ok, that could count as somewhat a loss for Sony as a company, but hardly a loss to the gamers.
Assasins Creek at the moment sounds to be at least a "timed exclusive", so a gain to Sony but doesn't really matter to gamers.
Other "lost exclusives".... can't think of any.

Another publication getting into the sensationalist "Sony doomed" bandwagon based on one or two selected minor company drawbacks. Yawn and meh. Even more yawn and meh because nowadays these publications seem to base their articles on internet forum rumours. Guess they need to be able to compete somehow... but it's kinda pathetic.
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Thats what I say too. They are bublng about PS3 loosing exclusives when its not true. They were expected to be multiplatform since they were anounced. But even if it was true, these arent any major PS3 franchises that existed on the previous PS consoles. Actually it hasnt lost anything. It just didnt gain these as extra exclusives. But other new extra exclusives are coming plus the previous PS exclusive games.

It almost seems as if everyone wants to exaggerate about certain things PS3 and such news are spreading so much, its idiotic.

A list of stupid claims
Sony loses exclusives?
Sony copies everyone and everyone else doesnt so PS3 is just a copy of its competitors?
PS3 is extremely hard to develop for?
The "core" version doesnt support wireless controllers?(I wonder where they got that stupid claim from)
PS3 is broken and rushed?
The motion sensing feature on the PS3 isnt functionable?
PS3 will be downgraded?
PS3 will be $900 to make (some even claimed it was going to be sold at $800)?
Even the most impressive PS3 games dont look good enough?(so far its the only machine that has shown almost indistinguishable real time graphics from CGI IMO)
PS3's extra features are useless or bad?
Backwards compatibility is a bad idea?
PS3 has half the performance of 360 and its very weak (yeah I even found such articles)?


All nothing but BS
 
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scooby_dooby said:
LOL I love the whole 'whoever said Mercs and Assasins were exclusive?" act.

Meanwhile, I get neg repped, and argued against by 10 different people when I tried to point out these common sense facts a month ago. Whatever happend to the 'well the logo's not on their website so it's not in development' logic? ;)
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You were probably talking to different people and not the people that responded in this thread.
 
Nesh said:
The "core" version doesnt support wireless controllers?(I wonder where they got that stupid claim from)
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Oh, I know where that came from. The authors of an article thought that "No WiFi" means also no wireless controllers. Though, for the love of god I can't remember who wrote that piece of crap.
 
Bah, sony will be hit with "lose" of Assassins creed and Mercenaries 2 as much as xbox 360 with loss of Full auto and Ridge Racer :) If FF (and based on last years excitement of MS with ps2 game FF XI it’s obvious how hard ms wants FF on 360) or MGS went on 360 and stopped being exclusive sony would be shaken. These two titles don't matter much to sony and average ps3 buyer.
 
kraken said:
These two titles don't matter much to sony and average ps3 buyer.
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Agreed - Assins Creed isn't a ps2 best seller. But that probably has something to do with it being a new ip. The only news out of this title's destination is the acclaim it received at e3. If it gets announced exclusive on anyone's machine it will be a significant addition as it was one of the standouts at this e3. The real story is the lack of standouts and the potential of one of the few, the proud, the mar... errr - one of the best at the show going exclusive (or not). :)
 
Nesh said:
Even the most impressive PS3 games dont look good enough?(so far its the only machine that has shown almost indistinguishable real time graphics from CGI IMO)
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Care to show us where these graphics are then? I've seen nothing on PS3 that is better than the best on XB360, and nothing as objectively good as Gears of War...but I have seen a whole load worse.
 
predicate said:
Care to show us where these graphics are then? I've seen nothing on PS3 that is better than the best on XB360, and nothing as objectively good as Gears of War...but I have seen a whole load worse.
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See? What have I been telling?

Even the most impressive PS3 games dont look good enough?(so far its the only machine that has shown almost indistinguishable real time graphics from CGI IMO)
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Nesh said:
See? What have I been telling?
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So are you gonna give him some links to the CGI-esque realtime graphics or are you just gonna banter and troll eachother back and forth?

As for your "stupid claims" list, many are true or loosely based on facts and dependant upon perspective will be viewed differently. e.g. the PS3 did have some downgrades (and a few upgrades), it has lost some exclusives from the PS2 generation (and has added some new IPs), Sony does copy everyone else (just as others copy Sony), the PS3 is extremely difficult to develop for (but in many ways easier than the PS2 for PS2 devs), the ML manufacturing projections overall was not as crazy as some of you continue to suggest (of course you add your own hyperbole... unless forum posters count as "some" but then again we could banter all day long the crazy stupid ideas "some" suggest), Some of Sony's extra features ideas like dual HDMI and router switch and so forth we not necessarily great ideas and the looming format war and DRM issues and small library and HDTV install base do raise red flags from some consumers, etc...

Even the most impressive PS3 games dont look good enough?(so far its the only machine that has shown almost indistinguishable real time graphics from CGI IMO)
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Depends what you mean by good enough. Reading the cruficixion of Oblivion, Kameo, PGR3, GRAW, CoD2, FNR3, etc have had some posters, it would not be surprising that the majority of PS3 games did not look good enough either--seeing as there is not much of a difference. You may disagree, but the media in general and IMO the difference is not very large. In general, from the limited stuff we have seen, graphical quality was closely tied to financial support and developer skill FAR more than what platform it was on.

I was utterly disappointed that outside a few exceptions (MGS4, Halo 3, Heavenly Sword, etc) that the majority of really good looking titles were UE3/UE2.5 games. Mass Effect, Brother in Arms, Rainbow Six, Gears of War, Assassin's Creed, Bioshock, Splinter Cell, UT2007, etc... While I can accept that it can take a couple years to build a game from scratch with a new engine designed around a consoles strengths and a game designed around that engine -- and with less than 12 months of dev time on real hardware PS3 and Xbox 360 devs probably wont be getting us that stuff until the end of 2007 -- the fact that a middleware solution like UE3 is pretty much heads and shoulders above everything else coming in 2006 makes me shake my head.

Personally, no, I don't think either system has shown anything slated for 2006 that is "good enough". Both consoles will have some nice titles this fall, but I fully expect 1st party titles in 2007 and beyond to begin slapping this PC portware, crossplatform, behind the curve old-school rendering engines uprezed, etc... theme to stop.

As for your CGI comment, that is your opinion. I would agree that some of the PS3 realtime footage could pass for CGI. MGS4 looks very good and could pass for low level CGI in some places. But I disagree that it is the only console that has done such. The one title that I could have swore was CGI (and even voiced that opinion until news reports came out) was the Halo 3 movie. The texture quality, view distance, excellent anti-aliasing, etc immediately made me wonder. Halo 3 could have passed for low level CGI in my opinion. Of course in your opinion the PS3 is the only machine to have CGI level graphics and are bent on proving we are all wrong and out to get the PS3, so why am I even discussing this? Any claim backed up with some points gets twisted and put on your hall of shame stupid list! :LOL:
 
If I start discussing every point we will go forever just like it has been done before by others. You also mentioned the same things I said, or misunderstood some points so there is no need to discuss. But if you insist I ll run through my points again

As for the stupid claims based on facts see again what I said:

It almost seems as if everyone wants to exaggerate about certain things PS3 and such news are spreading so much, its idiotic.
Which can also imply facts are twisted or taken to the edge

And about the games, I was refering to the exceptions. But you misquoted me in many many parts. Hopefully not intentionally
 
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