Something like Mirror's Edge? I suppose if there's no day and night cycle then prebaked would indeed serves best. Maybe SSGI for some specific scenes? Am I making sense here?
Game engine comparisons (UDF2, AC, KZ2 etc.)
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Ether_Snake
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This engine comparison thing is a bit pointless. Anything from those games could be implemented in another engine without much problem, except maybe turning KZ or Uncharted's engine into an open-world-oriented one, but even that would probably not be a huge problem. AC's engine was used to make PoP, which was not "open world". Dunia is particular.
So really, it's a bit pointless. You're just comparing the games.
So really, it's a bit pointless. You're just comparing the games.
I think you're right. Obviously Uncharted 2 sports pre-baked GI (which game doesn't nowadays?), but in the latest gameplay video there's also clear indications of SSAO.
Yes, in my opinion the Far Cry 2 is one of the most impressive looking games this gen. Dunia is a very impressive engine - has some of the best hdr I've seen, and with full on 4xAA (or higher) + transparency AA, it's very impressive indeed. It was also supposed to feature real time radiosity but it looks like it was ditched in the final version for some prebaked GI effect (still looks really good in some situations). Some AO would have also gone a long way to make the game look even better (thank Nvidia for driver enabled AO!).
L. Scofield
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For what we've seen it's nothing like Mirror's Edge/Killzone 2. In those games, the GI, affects dynamic objects like the characters. In U2 the GI is baked into the texture, it's not realtime.
Indeed. The only limitation that bothers me is the amount of lights you can use at any given time. Sure, there are fill lights but they're only useful some of the time. Fortunately, CE3 is on it's way to improve on that and with realtime indirect lighting too
You are right, it's not. There aren't many interactive objects anyway.
L. Scofield
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Well, it is precomputed, but it affects the characters in realtime. It's not just painted. Some notable examples of characters other than Faith being affected by indirect lighting (1:20, 4:23):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRPTxA6zS-o
Not all lights exhibit that feature, but it's there nonetheless.
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There is no realtime GI in Mirrors Edge Killzone 2 either AFAIK.
L. Scofield
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Well, not fully realtime. While the solution is precomputed, the characters are shaded in realtime, so it's not entirely prebaked like in U2 and others.
Again ,that's just some kind of spherical harmonics.Uncharted had it UC2 has it too.
L. Scofield
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Care to point to an example of color bleeding in those games?
iT's there.It's easier to spot in Mirror Edge because of their choices for color palete ,but SH are there in Uncharted and others games to provide local ambient lighting (yes , bleeding) .On KZ2 THe method is slightly different but it's there too.
Uhh, isn't the GI baked into the texture in ME and KZ2 as well?
I'm pretty sure all 3 games have baked lighting for static objects, with 'dynamic objects' being the only ones that feature realtime shading.
Yup, you should have seen that during the drop-off sequence anyway as the Normandy flies over and drops off the mako.
Curiously, Halo 3 has a limited OMB in that objects have to be close enough and fast enough relative to the camera.
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yeah I must be slow or something. I even had a screenshot showing it!
http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/3940/masseffectpc3jm6.jpg
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L. Scofield
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Yes but it affects dynamic characters in realtime, unlike in other games where it doesn't.
Heh, that's why I always press shift when running in Mass Effect
