Formula 1 - 2020 Season

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by pharma, Jan 31, 2020.

  1. AlphaWolf

    AlphaWolf Specious Misanthrope Legend

    The car broke in half on impact because the cockpit (with driver) wedged its way through the metal barrier.
     
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  2. In decades. The more incredible thing is how big the deacceleration must have been. Usually they bounce off the wall or something, taking away some of the impact. But this just went from 200+ to zero in a meter.

    Looking at the replays it also looks like it took him a good 10~15 seconds to get out.

    Happy to hear he's somewhat okay. Some burns and maybe broken ribs but nothing too bad given the circumstances.
     
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  3. Arnold Beckenbauer

    Arnold Beckenbauer Veteran Subscriber

    It sounds strange, but it is intended. The monocoque is decoupled from the engine etc. And it is so stable and didn't breake. And the halo seems to help a lot.
     
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  4. AlphaWolf

    AlphaWolf Specious Misanthrope Legend

    Ya the cockpit is a secure structure, but it still takes significant impact to separate it from the chassis. I think it's the only time it has happened this year.

    Edit-> Apparently no fractures for Grosjean, just burns to his hands.
     
    Last edited: Nov 29, 2020
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  5. A lot probably depends on the angle and inertia as well. Usually cars bounce off the wall and have the side impact structures/wheels take the initial hit. This crash looks like the cockpit went straight through the guardrail with the rest of the car getting caught in the deformed guardrail. There wasn't anywhere for the energy to go so it got ripped off.
     
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  6. Bludd

    Bludd Experiencing A Significant Gravitas Shortfall Veteran

    incredible, grosjean saved by halo i would say - luckily his haas' wayward wheels didnt hit anyone
    great work by fia medical car and marshalls (mostly, not the crazy one crossing the road to get to perez' car)

    perez, so heartbreaking. stroll out from mr. torpedo kvyat and perez just blew up
     
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  7. pharma

    pharma Veteran

    Formula 1: Romain Grosjean's escape leaves sport with soul-searching to do
    Formula 1: Romain Grosjean's escape leaves sport with soul-searching to do - BBC Sport
     
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  8. Gerry

    Gerry Regular

    Whilst this is true, it seems that the engine stayed attached to chassisi whereas it's meant to break off with the rear of the car. So whether by sheer luck or something else, it didn't quite work as expected.
     
  9. Overdramatic title.
     
  10. Wouldn't that depend on the impact? On a side impact you might want to car to break up, bit this was essentially a frontal impact. I can imagine that is not the type of load the engine is designed to break off the monocoque.

    The engine and gearbox are part of the chassis. The nose penetrated the barrier so it might have been the sidepods or something that ripped the back off. It would make sense that didn't take off the engine as I don't think the sidepods etc. Are that strongly connected to the engine.

    Also the back of the car looked to be in mostly one piece. Wheels still on etc. If the engine was still attached to the monocoque than what about the gearbox?
     
  11. Arnold Beckenbauer

    Arnold Beckenbauer Veteran Subscriber

    No F1 cockpit for Calum Ilott next year (and so better chances for Mick Schumacher), Fittipaldi will replace GRO next weekende, https://www.racefans.net/2020/11/30...ut-grosjeans-substitute-at-sakhir-grand-prix/

    GRO about Halo: https://www.racefans.net/2020/11/29...reatest-thing-weve-brought-to-f1-after-crash/

    What he said 2017 about Halo: "We don’t need anything. I am against every Halo or Shield or whatever, it is not F1." https://www.racefans.net/2017/07/23/is-halo-really-as-popular-among-the-drivers-as-the-fia-claims/
     
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  12. Arnold Beckenbauer

    Arnold Beckenbauer Veteran Subscriber

    https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/55142428

    And Hulk so: "Hold my beer"

    But I don't think, he (Hulk) will replace Hamilton, Esteban Gutiérrez could replace him.

    Stoffel Vandoorne is MGP's reserve driver, too. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esteban_Gutiérrez#Reserve_and_development_driver_for_Mercedes_(2018–present)

    Mazepin for Haas confirmed.
     
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  13. Bludd

    Bludd Experiencing A Significant Gravitas Shortfall Veteran

    schumacher will join haas surely for 2021.

    also it will be very interesting to see what hamiltons replacement will do in the best car. hülkenberg is for me the best choice as he has current f1 experience but who knows

    pietro fittipaldi will bring the fittipaldi name back into f1 (he's emerson's grandson) so that will be interesting to see when he replaces grosjean in haas at sakhir
     
  14. Arnold Beckenbauer

    Arnold Beckenbauer Veteran Subscriber

    https://www.fia.com/news/f1-statement-covid-19-test-result-lewis-hamilton
    How many hugs did Lewis give after his victory?

    And here the MGP F1 statement, https://www.mercedesamgf1.com/en/news/2020/2020-sakhir-grand-prix/mercedes-amg-f1-team-announcement/

     
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  15. Is there any chance they could put in Russel to see how he does?

    Hulkenberg would be my choice too and he's a German as well. It would also be a good way to see how good/bad Bottas really is though chances are he'll start from P1 so that might just save him.

    I can't see them putting a reserve driver in as none of them have much experience. But who knows. It's not like Merc needs the points.
     
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  16. Arnold Beckenbauer

    Arnold Beckenbauer Veteran Subscriber

    Ralf Schumacher thinks and hopes, it will be Russell.
     
  17. Bludd

    Bludd Experiencing A Significant Gravitas Shortfall Veteran

    may be russell and kubica in at williams? or hülkenberg

    who knows, us hopefully soon :)
     
  18. Arnold Beckenbauer

    Arnold Beckenbauer Veteran Subscriber

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    Arnold Beckenbauer Veteran Subscriber

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