FF:CC not turn-based and supports 4 players...wooohooo!!

Again, as I've said before, no Hironobou Sakaguchi, not a real Final Fantasy.

FF:CC looks like a totally different game that had the FF monicker slapped on it during negotiations with Nintendo. See "Mystic Quests", "Tactics", the early Game Boy games, etc. All different games branded with 'Final Fantasy' for marketing.
 
so this game is being done by the guy in charge of the Saga games? Uhh, thanks, I'll hold off on my excitement. It looks great though :eek:
 
zurich said:
Again, as I've said before, no Hironobou Sakaguchi, not a real Final Fantasy.

FF:CC looks like a totally different game that had the FF monicker slapped on it during negotiations with Nintendo. See "Mystic Quests", "Tactics", the early Game Boy games, etc. All different games branded with 'Final Fantasy' for marketing.

and I say, thank god to that, something fresh and new, ...not a tired old battle system mixed with 20 hours of cutscenes.
 
zurich said:
Again, as I've said before, no Hironobou Sakaguchi, not a real Final Fantasy.

FF:CC looks like a totally different game that had the FF monicker slapped on it during negotiations with Nintendo. See "Mystic Quests", "Tactics", the early Game Boy games, etc. All different games branded with 'Final Fantasy' for marketing.

There hasn't been a "real" Final Fantasy since 6. 7 and after have all been crappy FMV delusions of grandeur that, rather than elicit fanciful notions of greatness, made me puke.

But then again, I dislike FMV-substitutions-for-gameplay immensely. So if FF:CC is nothing like 7-10, and is more like FF 1-6/Secret of Mana/et al, I will be ever so grateful. :)
 
I could go into how the FMV 7-9 games were no different gameplay wise from the SNES 4-6 games, and how FMV and such was just a logical evolution of the way Sakaguchi-san presents story, but I've argued this a million times here and no one seems to take notice.

Sprites hopping/spinning around in 1991 == FMV cinema 1998 == scrippted ingame cutscene in 2002.

Only difference is presentation.
 
zurich said:
I could go into how the FMV 7-9 games were no different gameplay wise from the SNES 4-6 games, and how FMV and such was just a logical evolution of the way Sakaguchi-san presents story, but I've argued this a million times here and no one seems to take notice.

I agree with you that it was a "logical evolution". Well put.

The old games had plenty of cutscenes. A little FMV is basically no different.
 
Ozymandis said:
zurich said:
I could go into how the FMV 7-9 games were no different gameplay wise from the SNES 4-6 games, and how FMV and such was just a logical evolution of the way Sakaguchi-san presents story, but I've argued this a million times here and no one seems to take notice.

I agree with you that it was a "logical evolution". Well put.

The old games had plenty of cutscenes. A little FMV is basically no different.

I agree, a little FMV is great...too bad they used far from a little.. its gotten to be way too much..
 
Do you mean FMV? Or ingame-engine-cutscenes? They're basically the same thing. Too much FMV would be XenoSaga. I've always felt the Final Fantasy games were bang on perfect, with not too much and not too little.

I mean, speaking purely of FMV on PSX games, if there's an hour of it in total (INCLUDING the intro & ending which is usually atleast 10-15 minutes), that really isnt even worth discussing when a game is anywhere from 20-40 hours long.

Look at XenoSaga, there's said to be cutscenes that go on for close to two hours.

FMV this, FMV that, I really don't understand the argument. Like, you go to the Golden Saucer and it plays a 15 second FMV clip - heaven forbid! Or Squall and Rinoa hook up in space (key plot moment) and it plays a 2 minute FMV w/"Eyes on Me", a truly awesome scene - what would you prefer? Shittily rendered PSX graphics with a little gay Yes/No happyface box to pop up and say, "You love me, right Squall?". Or even, take the 10 minute long scripted intro in FF IV where Cecil razes Mysidia and gets kicked out the Red Wings.. is the 10 minute FMV at the start of FF X where Sin destroys Zanarkand any different ?

Oh well, as much as I've never understand the anti-FMV-PSX/2-FinalFantasy argument, you'll never understand mine. I think the only difference is that I've played every single one through-in-and-out multiple times, and still do.

BTW, Merry Christmas!
 
CaptainHowdy said:
I agree, a little FMV is great...too bad they used far from a little.. its gotten to be way too much..

You obviously haven't played Final Fantasy X. That game has very little FMV... mostly in-game cutscenes are used to further the plot.

I'd say that it has maybe 20 minutes of FMV.
 
You obviously haven't played Final Fantasy X. That game has very little FMV... mostly in-game cutscenes are used to further the plot.

I'd say that it has maybe 20 minutes of FMV.

You are far off..... WAY FAR OFF!!! There has to be at least 4 hours of FMV in FFX. I am not kidding, I played the game and there is always a FMV from area to area. There is a HK bootleg DVD that is just a compililation of the FMV from FFX..... it's called "Final Fantasy: Another Story". This is not a logical evolution of a FF game, it's a sorry replacement for gameplay.
 
RaolinDarksbane said:
You obviously haven't played Final Fantasy X. That game has very little FMV... mostly in-game cutscenes are used to further the plot.

I'd say that it has maybe 20 minutes of FMV.

You are far off..... WAY FAR OFF!!! There has to be at least 4 hours of FMV in FFX. I am not kidding, I played the game and there is always a FMV from area to area. There is a HK bootleg DVD that is just a compililation of the FMV from FFX..... it's called "Final Fantasy: Another Story". This is not a logical evolution of a FF game, it's a sorry replacement for gameplay.

:rolleyes: FMVs are not their to replace gameplay they are there to relate story elements. Even with FMVs FFX has one hell of a lot of play time. More so then a lot of those "good" gameplay titles by nintendo who offer little or no FMVs. If you ask me FMVs and their are inpart what make a game seem well developed and thought out.
 
I swear to God this forum has gone into the crapper.

People don't even need to post what they think anymore; user names are enough. I know what you're going to say simply based on the topic. I know who's going to love this FF and who is going to dismiss it. So predictable. And gee, my predictions based on looking soley at usernames before reading your posts were 100% accurate.

Are you guys bots?
 
Plasmatics said:
I swear to God this forum has gone into the crapper.

People don't even need to post what they think anymore; user names are enough. I know what you're going to say simply based on the topic. I know who's going to love this FF and who is going to dismiss it. So predictable. And gee, my predictions based on looking soley at usernames before reading your posts were 100% accurate.

Are you guys bots?

The same can be said for xbox titles. There are a lot of heavly biased people here.

I will readily admit I don't care for nintendo's titles often. Its not that their sytem isn't a good piece of hardware. Its the software i don't care for. I don't care if some one likes nintendo software. That is their opinion and they are entitled to it. What i don't like are these people who toute "gameplay" as a reason to buy a title when it is really because it is on their system. This is how i feel about FF:CC. If it were on another system other than GC these people here who are interested in it wouldn't care about.
 
RaolinDarksbane said:
You are far off..... WAY FAR OFF!!! There has to be at least 4 hours of FMV in FFX. I am not kidding, I played the game and there is always a FMV from area to area. There is a HK bootleg DVD that is just a compililation of the FMV from FFX..... it's called "Final Fantasy: Another Story". This is not a logical evolution of a FF game, it's a sorry replacement for gameplay.

Have you played the game? It doesn't sound like it. FMVs in Final Fantasy X:

Blitzball/Sin's attack
Blitzball/Sin's attack/Anima
Rescue from wedding
Love scene
Ending

And there were some others, but most were short and there really weren't that many. Probably not more than 20 minutes, from what I remember.

FFX: Another Story is something different. It is a video which is basically an epilogue to FFX and an introduction to the story in FFX-2.
 
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