EU PS3 = Software PS2 Emulation
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DuckThor Evil
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I think based on that PR-statement it's given that we are not looking at 98%. I don't want to guess any number or anything like that and the end result can still be quite satisfactory if for example 90% of games that has over 85/100 on metacritic are compatible, but the wording "limited" sounds less than that, though I admit Arwin has a point. Still I think many things can be taken from that stament.
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Ok thanks, I have to follow the situation a bit, since the ability to purchase games from NA must be available to me, even if that means ntsc-machine, but then comes in the issue of renting movies... Life ain't easy :smile:
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This sucks and will blow up in sonys face, it´s a 100% certified stupid move, you don´t proclaim how incredible cool you are because you have actual real working backwards compatible support in your machine and then a few months later you shortshift you customers and remove it and exchange it for some halfhearted stopgap measure. Stupid stupid stupid move
At least they will update BC with firmwares... But at least now is theoreticley possible to play God of War 2 on 720p
If they are going to be updating BC then it isn't a big deal , if not -1 sale from me
I was seriously considering buying a PS3 specifically for its backwards compatability so that I could play my girlfriends PS2 games at my house without her having to drag the PS2 here.
But if singstar doesn't work then Sony can stuff it!
But if singstar doesn't work then Sony can stuff it!
It may be, but we knew it was going to happen at some point or another. We just didn't know machines with hardware BC would never hit Europe..
We also didn't know how good or bad the software solution would be, although we don't precisely know now either. I think people assumed they'd transition to it once it reached an 'acceptable' state, whatever that is. I don't know if they've waited until they reached that point..it looks good for PSone, not so good for PS2.
Anyway, I'm REALLY glad I didn't hang around, and imported last year (though my PAL PS2 games will still be in the lurch). Hopefully existing machines will have the best of both worlds, if there's any improvements in software BC (I'm thinking it's more likely for PSone games than PS2).
archangelmorph
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If it means cost reductions are enough for Sony to be able to give us a nice big fat price drop in 2007 then i'm all for it..!!
I wasn't planning on getting a PS3 at launch anyways..
Plus i'm pretty sure the majority of PS3 owners will have PS2s anyway so they may not need immaculate BC until 2 yrs down the line when they can safely get rid of their PS2s and SW BC would have been sorted out sufficiently enough..
You mean it's never good enough? Like when we got hardware emulation people complained that there weren't any enhancements possible, like rendering at HD and so on, and now it's 'oh my god we might lose some compatibility, we're screwed'. Sony can never win, can they?
I think that it's really strange how many bad move can be made before finishing the launch. Price, timeline, games, graphics and now backward compatibility. And European users that are already pissed off by paying their console lot more than other countries and receiveing it an age after original launch, now receive this good news... well..
This doesn't exactly sound encouraging does it? Now it doesn't affect me in the slightest, since I don't own a PS2, but there were quite a few people on here ensuring us that backwards combatibility was a very important component of the PS3. It's certainly seems to be another slap in the face for European customers, that's for sure.
I am dissapointed by this as there are many games I am still interested on the PS2 and I was hoping that atlast I d make room with the PS3 being able to play PS2 games instead of having to place a PS3 AND a PS2 under my TV.
Also my PS2 is getting old and is having problems playing some disks.
Also my PS2 is getting old and is having problems playing some disks.
Not a huge concern to me. I have about 40 original games, as long as the 10% of them I'm actually interested in playing still works I'll be happy enough.
I hope there is some sort of enhancement though, that would soften the blow.
Maybe something like the PS1 emulators do for PC, rendering the graphics at a higher resolution would be a nice addition.
I hope there is some sort of enhancement though, that would soften the blow.
Maybe something like the PS1 emulators do for PC, rendering the graphics at a higher resolution would be a nice addition.
Yeah we kind a knew it would happen at some point, and most likely it would be part of a price reduction, and there would be a solid software solution and a solid PS3 library as well. We didn´t get anything except a broken promise. Note: I don´t have a problem with this personally but this is gonna hurt Sony, this is a promise that wasn´t kept, this is a feature that was used as an argument FOR PS3 vs the 360. This is not good. If they announce some of the most important high profile PS2 titles to be supported and that the software solution makes them look incredible it would change things.. but it doesn´t seem likely.
Yeah... saw this one coming. This is one of the reasons I bought a launch PS3
Well I think most of us saw it coming, but I personally thought it was going to be more seamless and unnoticeable. Meaning games would still run the same (and maybe even visual upgrades when it went software). Then again, we don't know the extent of games missing and the amount of games that will be added in firmware updates and how soon firmware updates will come but the words in the press release aren't very encouraging. I'm interested in seeing that list even though it doesn't quite affect me.
/me hugs his NA ps3. w/ EE/GS chips.
They are not trying to cut prices they simply cut their costs. (devs, maintanance etc)
Wow I didn't see this coming. I thought for sure this was something sony got right by including the hardware for BC. Although I do see the cost ramifications, but sony never should have touted their hardware BC if they were planning on doing this. I can't wait until the media pics this up, the pod casts will be interesting...
Rainbow Man
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I'm sure many euro PS2 gamers are going to see this as another deliberate shafting rom Sony. Not that they've not had enough already.
Wasn't it enoguh with the vastly higher price and the much later launch. Now the vastly higher price is kept and the much later launch asw ell and as an added bonus kick in the nuts there's no true backwards compatibility either.
I try not to take sides in the so called "cxonsole war" (because it's generally a silly thing to do) but I don't think anyone'll blame me for proclaiming this frankly sucks.
I think €600 really would be sufficient to pay for the PS2 hardware but alas Sony feels different about it it would seem. Childish as it may be I can't help hoping Sony will suffer because of this debacle. If for no other reason so they'll hopefully learn from it and act more wisely in the future.
Peace.
Wasn't it enoguh with the vastly higher price and the much later launch. Now the vastly higher price is kept and the much later launch asw ell and as an added bonus kick in the nuts there's no true backwards compatibility either.
I try not to take sides in the so called "cxonsole war" (because it's generally a silly thing to do) but I don't think anyone'll blame me for proclaiming this frankly sucks.
I think €600 really would be sufficient to pay for the PS2 hardware but alas Sony feels different about it it would seem. Childish as it may be I can't help hoping Sony will suffer because of this debacle. If for no other reason so they'll hopefully learn from it and act more wisely in the future.
Peace.