ELSA hints GT206 and GT212

The GT218 and GT216 should be coming first though, maybe later than originally expected, would be very lucky if they can launch either before june.
Think these will be lucky to launch before late june or early july, will be shortages otherwise.

Is some confusion over sp's count, was widely reported GT218 at 32 in january. Might come in lower at 16, not sure if this is a cut down part to increase yields which have been problematic. Similarly GT216 at 48 and 64 sp's depending on who you believe.

Finally have no info on dates for GT215. :cry: Guess will be quite a way into Q3.
 
that 32SP card with 800MHz doesn't seem that terrible, somewhat half a RV730 if that's to be believed.
considering it would probably end up with regular desktop 800MHz ddr3 and sold at 30€, that will be a nice crappy card.. so much better that the 9200SE, X300SE, FX5200 and Intel 945 stuff you can still regularly come across on random existing PCs.
 
that 32SP card with 800MHz doesn't seem that terrible, somewhat half a RV730 if that's to be believed.
considering it would probably end up with regular desktop 800MHz ddr3 and sold at 30€, that will be a nice crappy card.. so much better that the 9200SE, X300SE, FX5200 and Intel 945 stuff you can still regularly come across on random existing PCs.
The bigger brother GT216 is supposed to go against the RV730. GT218 is more to replace G96/G98, i guess competing with RV710 and older products like RV635. How both chips go i guess all comes to down to the yield, how good it is now and how it ramps over the next 6 months or so. Net price makes or breaks.

Interesting nobody much is looking at or talking about the GT214/GT215 and all things that have happened. Seemed to have moved on to GT300 blissfully ignorant of all the events that have occurred and what they mean.
 
Seemed to have moved on to GT300 blissfully ignorant of all the events that have occurred and what they mean.

What do they mean? I think everyone has already recognized that Nvidia is having all sorts of problems getting their chips out. Or are you referring to a possible change in strategy for GT3xx derivatives? I'm still wondering how Nvidia plans to combat RV870 given its expected featureset advantage over GT2xx.
 
Interesting nobody much is looking at or talking about the GT214/GT215 and all things that have happened. Seemed to have moved on to GT300 blissfully ignorant of all the events that have occurred and what they mean.
Uhm, GT212 (GDDR5) and GT214 (GDDR3) were replaced by GT215 (GDDR5) because: a) GT212 was too big. b) GDDR3 on GT214 was dumb. End of story, nothing to see here folks.
 
Uhm, GT212 (GDDR5) and GT214 (GDDR3) were replaced by GT215 (GDDR5) because: a) GT212 was too big. b) GDDR3 on GT214 was dumb. End of story, nothing to see here folks.
So what's GT215 in your opinion? GT214 with GDDR5 or something bigger?
 
Fuad is now saying Nvidia's 40nm line up, most presumably the GT21x are DirectX 10.1, wonder how Nvidia will play this up? (Keeping in mind, 100% of their current line up will suffer from a pseudo negative performance impact if they push devs for DirectX 10.1)
 
Fuad is now saying Nvidia's 40nm line up, most presumably the GT21x are DirectX 10.1, wonder how Nvidia will play this up? (Keeping in mind, 100% of their current line up will suffer from a pseudo negative performance impact if they push devs for DirectX 10.1)
I heard about that many months ago, yeah. Never mentioned it because: a) I initially couldn't. b) I wasn't completely sure.

We'll see what happens. Fun stuff.
 
Hehe, I remember us talking about it early this year. Indeed funny stuff if it's true.

Btw... GT220 and G210 here we come... in August. Oh and both will be available in DDR2 and DDR3 versions. GT220 will be placed in the $55-$60 slot while G210 will be in the $30-$35 bracket.
 
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Hehe, I remember us talking about it early this year. Indeed funny stuff if it's true.

Btw... GT220 and GT210 here we come... in August. Oh and both will be available in DDR2 and DDR3 versions. GT220 will be placed in the $55-$60 slot while GT210 will be in the $30-$35 bracket.

CJ are you sure about the name for the lowest end as the 'GT210' in the retail name dont the lowest end parts prefixxed with just a plain 'G' and mainstream 'GT'

Arun re the GT215 having GDDR5, that is news. Nobody seemed sure, few said GT3XX parts was where that would debut. Also problems with the GT214/215 wrt leakage and TSMC40nm, rumor was they had to redo the design in order to mitigate the problem.
 
Btw... GT220 and GT210 here we come... in August.

Whoa. Are things still that bad even for chips that small? Still no HD4770's in sight either. What's really going on with TSMC....can't remember things ever being this bad in recent history.
 
One thing to note maybe is that they changed the retail name for the GT216 from GT240 => GT220. Hinting that perhaps the first part released might have reduced units and/or reduced clocks to get more volume. Some time later a full strength chip will appear with higher clocks and/or more units.

Suppose this could be a part to release in bulk to OEMs then closer to christmas a higher performing more retail oriented part for regular consumers.
 
How does this all tie in with the mobile parts that are supposedly launching at Computex this week? Or is that BS?
 
Some more info...

GeForce GT 220 can come in three : P681 (DDR3), P682 (DDR2), P680 (GDDR3). Designkits are available early June. Mass Production in August. G210: P690 (DDR3), P691 (DDR2) design kits available in June. MP in August
 
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20090602VL201.html

Q: Just to finish can we talk briefly about the manufacturing side at Nvidia. You're currently in the process of moving to Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company's (TSMC's) 40nm process, how is that going?

A: We're moving to TSMC's 40nm node with our OEM products first. This is mainly due to capacity; TSMC is not building up their 40nm capacity until the second half of this year, probably close to the fourth-quarter, so based on the type of volumes we do in the channel, millions and millions of units per quarter, it doesn't make sense for us to move those products to 40nm just yet. But for the tons of OEM design wins we have on desktops and notebooks, we need to support those, and so we're using TSMC's limited 40nm capacity to supply those customers first. We'll transition to 40nm for our channel products probably at the end of this year.
Jawed
 
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