Did PS3 let us graphics whores down?

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I am in the Sony camp for the longest time and i was looking forward to PS3. I love reading preluanch rumors and speculations. That was an exciting time waiting for the next generation technology. I am not crazy to believe PS3 can boil my eggs and cook me breakfast.

When we have the real thing in front of me, I find the graphics not so good. I don't care about Killzone'05, we know that was a mock up beyond current graphics cards. It just hurts when i see new games like DMC4 not doing better on my more expensive PS3. I got hyperlinked here and found out that Sony even had to downclocked the graphics card LOWER than Xbox. WTF?!

Call me a graphics whore but for all the waiting, do you think PS3 should offer noticeable better graphics than the nearest competitor? It is unacceptable that a older hardware is as good at graphics as the latest. It sucks. When will PS3 have games that justify the hardware hype?
 
Well it's pretty bad that the PS3 is not producing better visuals than X360, especially given all the Sony exec comments about Xbox 1.5. Ridiculous.
 
Johnny Awesome said:
Well it's pretty bad that the PS3 is not producing better visuals than X360, especially given all the Sony exec comments about Xbox 1.5. Ridiculous.
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You should never buy into sound bites that the execs are giving. For all extents and purposes, the consoles are roughly equal. One thing that bodes well for Sony is that their developers, on a programming level as a whole, are better than Microsoft's as a whole. Proof in the pudding is when you see other developers put out better looking games and they are multi platform to boot. I still have faith in Rare's new engine though as they are the only dev team that Microsoft has that shows any kind of technical brillance. However, Naughty Dog, Insomniac, Polyphony, Cambridge and others smoke the rest of what Microsoft offers.
 
archangelmorph said:
What does realism have to do with technical merit with respect to computer graphics & visualization?
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I think the graphics of Uncharted and GOW are very close in technical merit. I prefer GOW realism than Uncharted cartoony rendering. I prefer Uncharted animations than GOW. I prefer GOW fighting and tactical game world engine than Uncharted.
 
Well if you exclude blu ray from the cost of the system. The total cost isn't too different. Thats why the graphics aren't too different IMO. Also consider that the PS3 was meant to launch earlier and got delayed. Had they been aiming for the launch date they got and met it, they might have had a g80 instead.
 
Before we get into the this game versus that with screenshots wankfest, the purpose of my thread is for PS3 owners to express their opinions whether they are really, fully, completely satisfied with the graphics that PS3 is producing after all that waiting.
 
Of my many predictions (one being the close proximity of console performance), one thing I bet on was people would select choice exclusives, on either side of the fence, to validate superiority. The reality is different devs have different skill sets, budgets, and design emphasises. IMO the best way to see how "power" of a *platform* is to compare the relative quality of software and, with special care to external influences, note how developers are producing titles on both platforms. e.g. Look at a company like IW or Ubi Montreal and see how the same team with the same budgets and design goals can squeeze out of a platform. Obviously there will be lowest common denominator issues as well as market realities to consider--but that would be the point. These are platforms, not just hardware.

As platforms there is, in general, a bit of parity and the bulk of the released software does tend to tilt the away from the PR madness. This may change over time, especially if some exclusives begin tapping "the last mile" with homogenous products (not freakzoid software like Lair).

Until then graphic hounds looking for a console can find reasons to be pleased (and very upset!) on either the PS3 or 360, and if absolutely obsessed with graphics they need to get a PC with a high end GPU for great AF and MSAA and better framerates and/or resolution.
 
gongo said:
Hi,

I am in the Sony camp for the longest time and i was looking forward to PS3. I love reading preluanch rumors and speculations. That was an exciting time waiting for the next generation technology. I am not crazy to believe PS3 can boil my eggs and cook me breakfast.

When we have the real thing in front of me, I find the graphics not so good. I don't care about Killzone'05, we know that was a mock up beyond current graphics cards. It just hurts when i see new games like DMC4 not doing better on my more expensive PS3. I got hyperlinked here and found out that Sony even had to downclocked the graphics card LOWER than Xbox. WTF?!

Call me a graphics whore but for all the waiting, do you think PS3 should offer noticeable better graphics than the nearest competitor? It is unacceptable that a older hardware is as good at graphics as the latest. It sucks. When will PS3 have games that justify the hardware hype?
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I think you will find both the PS3 and 360 video cards are clocked at the same speed.
 
Gongo... welcome to the forum. Let this be a future reference as to what sort of thread not to create.
 
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