Current anti-MS in gaming *spawn
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Tkumpathenurple
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It seems that they work fine, but native 4K at XBoxOne quality, checkerboard 4K with better visuals than the PS4Pro, and 1080p with bells and whistles greater than the PS4Pro's will be nice for those interested.
I think you mean 'persecution complex,' unless you feel MS are being heavily litigated against.
The 360 was covered very positively by most gaming media, it may be that the lukewarm reception to XB1 in contrast sort of leads to some MS fans seeing a bias. I do think there has been an over reaction at times to MS but that isn't exclusive to MS. We had similar reactions to Sony and PS3 in the last generation which Sony responded to by adjusting the price and aggressively developing a wide variety of software which helped them turn it around.
Is that supposed to prove some argument?
The game has been widely and thoroughly dissected, analysed and praised by both the Pros "DigitalFOundry", "NXGamers" and gamers alike all over the net. Sure we don't have an official "criteria" for such a thing here but if going by popular tech analysis sites like DF and NXG then the consensus from both is the same that UC4 is the best looking console game or video game ever overall, at least for now.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-uncharted-4-thiefs-end-tech-analysis
As for the general bias against MS, I think that's a bit overrated, after all most people and companies are still using Windows based OS despite the seemingly unwelcomed W10, which appeared to be the polar opposite of W7. MS also fucked up XBone launch and that till present day still lingers on with a bad odor, everything happens for a reason, most of the time. Causality is nothing but the truth here.
I don't really detect a lot of anti-MS/Xbox sentiment from my social circle or the sites I visit online. Nor do I for Sony. It's obviously there with some people and they will make it known. And those with the loudest voices tend to drown out the others. Even attempting small talk may aggravate nerves. Though I will admit there's clearly people who are anti-MS from many different sectors for whichever reasons. These people are in a minority where a majority either don't really care or have moved for whatever reasons. But overall I find most people to be fairly neutral
Now there may be more pro-Sony sentiment than there is for MS. I think it would be more appropriate to call it pro-Playstation sentiment. And since the console is in the dominant position worldwide it makes sense there'd be more people out there discussing things positively towards it.
The gaming media and its thousands of internet forum goers are very critical and when a company does something that pisses them off they make it known. And they are loud about it. And these companies have a fall from grace. It takes hard work and time for these companies to earn that trust and respect back. Sega failed. Sony succeeded. MS is in the process and seemingly succeeding. Nintendo is a mystery as of yet.
Now there may be more pro-Sony sentiment than there is for MS. I think it would be more appropriate to call it pro-Playstation sentiment. And since the console is in the dominant position worldwide it makes sense there'd be more people out there discussing things positively towards it.
The gaming media and its thousands of internet forum goers are very critical and when a company does something that pisses them off they make it known. And they are loud about it. And these companies have a fall from grace. It takes hard work and time for these companies to earn that trust and respect back. Sega failed. Sony succeeded. MS is in the process and seemingly succeeding. Nintendo is a mystery as of yet.
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Some people judge companies based on what they would do if they are in a dominant position; Nintendo, Sony, MS, Intel, and so on.
Sony made PS3 expensive and hard to develop for. That is bad, but I can see people hating MS or Nintendo more; Nintendo for actual antitrust, MS for going full on Kinect and later anti-consumer with Xbox one. I can see people holding a grudge for that longer.
Sony made PS3 expensive and hard to develop for. That is bad, but I can see people hating MS or Nintendo more; Nintendo for actual antitrust, MS for going full on Kinect and later anti-consumer with Xbox one. I can see people holding a grudge for that longer.
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I don't understand why people would "hate" a company whose products do not appeal. Hate is a strong word. What is wrong with people psychologically that they feel the need to actively dislike something they're not interested in? Spend time on the things you do like because life's too short.
There are a lot of fucked up bitter people out there.
There are a lot of fucked up bitter people out there.
+1. I think the console "war" exist because of the demise of SEGA as a platfom holder and all console fans are afraid to buy a product that will be stopped after a few year... I was before the PS2 a Nintendo and SEGA gamer. I had a genesis before a super NES but I bought a N64 before a PS1 and genesis was my last SEGA console... I don't understand why some people try to do the work of company to sold console to people. If I know someone like Halo, Gears of War and Forza no reason to buy a PS4. I like ND game, Team ICO game, Insomiac Games, some japanese games no reason to buy another console than the PS4...
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ProspectorPete
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It's not about not liking SNES or Mario; it's about hating how Nintendo treated stores and developers when they were in a dominant position. Or Intel; my MacBook Pro has an i7 which is pretty powerful, nice, but I hate how Intel threatened stores to jack prices up if they carried AMD products, or how they paid PC companies to not use AMD in their systems.
"Hate" does not mean that you want to kill them or cause physical pain or something, in my example it merely means that you rather avoid their products.
I was a pretty big Xbox fan, but I cannot support them anymore. The company has poisoned the Xbox division IMO. I tried to look past everything because I love Halo, but even looking at Halo; how they treated their crown developer after finishing their trilogy, it's not the same anymore.
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That's not hate. Based on your use of language like "poisoned the Xbox division", I think you need to take a few breaths and get some perspective. These are business decisions.
ProspectorPete
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With poisoned I did not actually mean that MS held a BBQ for the Xbox division and put anthrax on the steaks...
Business decisions limiting Xbox studio creativity, destroying (= not actually destroying, figuratively destroying) what the Xbox brand was about (; the best way to play the best games, unique titles, best online), wiping out market share (=not actually wiping out but rather severely lowering with regards to their competition), putting emphasis on everything non-gaming, Kinect, and so on.
But hey, if Phill Spencer believes this is their best generation yet, good for him!
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does "hate" count? ;-)
Business decisions limiting Xbox studio creativity, destroying (= not actually destroying, figuratively destroying) what the Xbox brand was about (; the best way to play the best games, unique titles, best online), wiping out market share (=not actually wiping out but rather severely lowering with regards to their competition), putting emphasis on everything non-gaming, Kinect, and so on.
But hey, if Phill Spencer believes this is their best generation yet, good for him!
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does "hate" count? ;-)
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People here are familiar with metaphors. :-/
That's not hate. Based on your use of language like "poisoned the Xbox division", I think you need to take a few breaths and get some perspective. These are business decisions.
With corporate personhood it's entirely viable to personify these companies and their actions.
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I agree, but why that doesn't answer the issue of hating something you have no interest in. It's healthy to show no emotion towards something that doesn't interest you but it's wholly unhealthy to actively dislike it. Feeling strong emotion without stimulus is a form of mental illness. Seriously.
I agree, but why that doesn't answer the issue of hating something you have no interest in. It's healthy to show no emotion towards something that doesn't interest you but it's wholly unhealthy to actively dislike it. Feeling strong emotion without stimulus is a form of mental illness. Seriously.
Your assumption that someone has no interest is patently false. If someone owns stock in MS they might be upset when's Sony succeeds. That's a perfectly analogous example.
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That is not any kind of analogy for fanboy hate but this is messed up in other ways. Firstly, Sony doing well does not equate to Microsoft doing badly. Secondly, blaming somebody else for doing better and being responsible for your perceived failures is no way to live your life. At least not happily.
That is not any kind of analogy for fanboy hate but this is messed up in other ways. Firstly, Sony doing well does not equate to Microsoft doing badly. Secondly, blaming somebody else for doing better and being responsible for your perceived failures is no way to live your life. At least not happily.
Let me know when you're done moving the goal posts and I'll explain it all again.
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