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[2008 IQ is unacceptable]

That's just the placebo effect. Someone told you it's true, so you believe it, but I bet you couldn't tell the difference in a blind test despite your protestations to the contrary.

Dude, why would they bother putting an imc in cpu's if it didn't reduce latency?

And no, from the many core 2 duo and earlier intel system's i've used, they were all much less responsive than the many systems with 64 x2's i've used.

A placebo effect is when one is given treatmeant/observed and the other isn't. Both have been observed by me, so I can hardly say I suffer from the placebo effect.

If you notice it, why do you assume I can't?

Stop making false accusations that I can't tell the difference between anything. If I couldn't tell the difference I'd admit it, just like i was not at all hesitant to do so in my thread about lossless audio. I couldn't exactly place what the original was, but that's not the case 100% of the time, and from my experiences, not even the case 1/2 of the time.

I'm not trying to be rude, but no one at nvnews even made an accusation as baseless as that against me, and everyone there hated me more than anywhere else.

 

[Neb]

I'm not trying to be rude, but no one at nvnews even made an accusation as baseless as that against me, and everyone there hated me more than anywhere else.

Thats it, thats what I remembered!

anyway this thread is going downhill fast...

 

[Bouncing Zabaglione Bros.]

Dude, why would they bother putting an imc in cpu's if it didn't reduce latency?

I've got a Intel system here, and there's no discernible "lag" compared to the AMD systems you can detect just by using it. Sure you can benchmark it, but you're not going to detect it just by using your mouse and starting a few programs when your hard drive is going to be about a thousand times more of a bottleneck.

Really, PCs have been fast enough for quite a while now that you can't detect the speed differences in the technology just using human senses. And the way the technology works, the overall effect of slow components in one system is mitigated by other faster components.

For instance, Core 2 gets beaten by Athlon's intergrated memory controller in memory tests, yet Intel always beats the Athlons overall because everything else in a Core 2 system is faster. And in the real world, there's nothing you do that doesn't use the whole of the system, not just one isolated component.

 

[Skrying]

Dude, why would they bother putting an imc in cpu's if it didn't reduce latency?

Because you can tell the difference of nanoseconds... Seriously, your opinion doesn't matter when hard facts PROVE you're wrong. You can't tell the difference at all, it's literally impossible. Again, you make these baseless claims over and over. Please learn something and realize that you're pretty much wrong on everything, maybe then you could earn some respect.

 

[ShaidarHaran]

They do sell a back plate for a bolt-thru method but yeah it's added cost. I can't really complain because Xigmatek sales a extremely good cooler and fan for a extremely reasonable price. Sadly the kit is currently out of stock for the three heatpipe models at Newegg, worth considering though once/if it comes back in stock.

The heatsink market is really rather interesting right now. The best two models out there, the Sunbeam Core Contact and already mentioned Xigmatek S1283, are very cheap in comparison to other models they dethroned. Really though I'm holding out for a direct heatpipe contact cooler that is designed for passive operation. Come on Thermalright, I know you want to update the HR-01+ with some direct touch loving.

Thanks for the tip! I might just have to do that soon. I've been wanting to remount my HSF and reapply TIM, maybe try some new stuff since I've been using AS 5 forever now.

 

[2008 IQ is unacceptable]

I've got a Intel system here, and there's no discernible "lag" compared to the AMD systems you can detect just by using it. Sure you can benchmark it, but you're not going to detect it just by using your mouse and starting a few programs when your hard drive is going to be about a thousand times more of a bottleneck.

Really, PCs have been fast enough for quite a while now that you can't detect the speed differences in the technology just using human senses. And the way the technology works, the overall effect of slow components in one system is mitigated by other faster components.

For instance, Core 2 gets beaten by Athlon's intergrated memory controller in memory tests, yet Intel always beats the Athlons overall because everything else in a Core 2 system is faster. And in the real world, there's nothing you do that doesn't use the whole of the system, not just one isolated component.

true. once again i'm probably wrong, but i guess i'm just retarded and can't be right much.

Because you can tell the difference of nanoseconds... Seriously, your opinion doesn't matter when hard facts PROVE you're wrong. You can't tell the difference at all, it's literally impossible. Again, you make these baseless claims over and over. Please learn something and realize that you're pretty much wrong on everything, maybe then you could earn some respect.

well if it's not that, it must be my imagination, and you could be right, but i'm going to go with my imagination, even though i'll admit it could be wrong.

 

[Skrying]

It's not about being retarded or being stupid. It's about making assumptions and having no data to back it up. Working in facts will get you somewhere, namely a lot more respect even from those who might still disagree. A quick search, for instance, of any recent CPU review will likely contain some numbers on latency for a CPU to access main memory. They're measured in nano seconds and even though a AMD chip does have lower latency levels than that of a Core 2 Duo, they're still far to low (far) to be noticed in the context you gave.

 

[Bludd]

IQ, get the fuck out of my thread. I have solved my issue. If you want to talk about your smoother IMCs, make your own damn ass thread.

 

[Bouncing Zabaglione Bros.]

No, everyone's opinion counts. I never said yours didn't=]

See, this is where you are very wrong and why so many of your posts are epic fail/faceplant material.

Everyone's opinion counts where something is subjective, such as "vanilla ice-cream is better than chocolate" or "I like hot weather better than cold weather".

However, where things are objective, facts are what matter. If you had the opinion that the earth was flat, the moon is made of green cheese, or that a human can detect nano-seconds of difference between memory controllers when using a computer system that involves many other components, then you're simply factually incorrect, regardless of it "being your opinion".

Your opinion has no value, both because of your lack of background knowledge, research and facts, and because you stand against many people who have that background knowledge and proven facts who are telling you that you are wrong.

You illustrate this time and time again by sticking your fingers in your ears and singing when presented with overwhelming evidence against your outrageous and (quite frankly) ignorant insistence on repeating the same incorrect assertions over and over again even when attempts have been made to educate you otherwise.

You got temp-banned in part over this, and here you are again doing the "Intel systems are laggy" schtick in the middle of a thread about heatsinks. You're really quite disruptive and you've already been labelled as the antithesis of everything that makes a B3D-er, despite all our varied guises.

You know we're a pretty forgiving lot, we have a lot of diverse opinions and personalities, but the unforgivable sin in this community is willful stupidity, determined ignorance, and the propogation of a low signal-to-noise ratio. You are that man, and I claim my five pounds.

Sorry to be so harsh, but that's "my opinion".

 

[2008 IQ is unacceptable]

See, this is where you are very wrong and why so many of your posts are epic fail/faceplant material.

Everyone's opinion counts where something is subjective, such as "vanilla ice-cream is better than chocolate" or "I like hot weather better than cold weather".

However, where things are objective, facts are what matter. If you had the opinion that the earth was flat, the moon is made of green cheese, or that a human can detect nano-seconds of difference between memory controllers when using a computer system that involves many other components, then you're simply factually incorrect, regardless of it "being your opinion".

Your opinion has no value, both because of your lack of background knowledge, research and facts, and because you stand against many people who have that background knowledge and proven facts who are telling you that you are wrong.

You illustrate this time and time again by sticking your fingers in your ears and singing when presented with overwhelming evidence against your outrageous and (quite frankly) ignorant insistence on repeating the same incorrect assertions over and over again even when attempts have been made to educate you otherwise.

You got temp-banned in part over this, and here you are again doing the "Intel systems are laggy" schtick in the middle of a thread about heatsinks. You're really quite disruptive and you've already been labelled as the antithesis of everything that makes a B3D-er, despite all our varied guises.

You know we're a pretty forgiving lot, we have a lot of diverse opinions and personalities, but the unforgivable sin in this community is willful stupidity, determined ignorance, and the propogation of a low signal-to-noise ratio. You are that man, and I claim my five pounds.

Sorry to be so harsh, but that's "my opinion".

I'm changing. If you read my latest post before this post, you'll see an honest change in myself. I don't know much, and I'll try to present myself like I truly am more than I have.

I have asked more questions (at others' recommendations), since i've been here rather than making only assertions since when i first came here. I'm trying to get better and better.

We just all need to work together. I appreciate you not calling me retarded.