davis.anthony
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Double post.
Could Dreamcast et al handle this/that game/effect? *DC tech retrospective *spawn
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You said PS2 was a beast without any base comparison. Why can't DC be compared the same way?
Besides which sonicfans' comment is clearly using people's current understanding of DC as the baseline. "...how how much of a beast DC truly is!" So compared to itself and what was released on it in its truncated lifetime. We have the ongoing developments showing DC had a lot of untapped potential.
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davis.anthony
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Because we're talking about two very different things.
"Watched that a few days ago, it was an interesting beast architecturally"
Where as sonicfan appears to talking about performance, not architecturally.
I never realized that SH3 had it's own implementation of bump mapping on PS2 and I played the game a ton of times
'Beast' is too vague a term to be arguing over. What does "architectural beast" mean? Besides which this is a DC thread.
It's ok to let people express themselves without overanalyzing whatever they are trying to say'Beast' is too vague a term to be arguing over. What does "architectural beast" mean? Besides which this is a DC thread.
That's exactly what i meant! Thank you! Idk why for some reason only DC has to recreate every detail of every game from the 6th gen when even ps2 never lived up to that standard compared to xbox/gamecube software a good amount of the time. DC, PS2, XBOX, and GC all looked great in their own respects, and every game on either system could be recreated on either of them with nips and tucks in certain places to make them work.
Exactly. So why pull up sonicfan's use of 'beast'?
I was interested to see Sonicfan's definition in his own answer but instead saw an overanalysis of @davis.anthony's 3 word question.
DC had the most powerful and sophisticated consumer GPU when it first appeared, and its CPU was the fastest at 3D / Vector processing (and while using less power than my MMX enabled Pentium 2!). Sega were actually involved in the development of the SH4, and the PowerVR2DC GPU was built to a list of demanding Sega requirements. The Neon 250, which came later, was significantly cut down.
If that doesn't allow you to call it both an architectural and performance beast (and rather custom by PS5/Series standards), I don't know what would.
If that doesn't allow you to call it both an architectural and performance beast (and rather custom by PS5/Series standards), I don't know what would.
I have vague memories of marconelly! discussing bump mapping on PS2. Might be worth a look perusing those old threads.
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Yeah, they've done tricks before to achieve a bunpmapped look on a couple of games. Path of neo, and malice stabd out as ones i recall
davis.anthony
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Primal was the game I remember the most about having bump mapping as it was in every article.
i thought it was released, anyway i got my "Rave Racer" thanks to ridge racer 2 PSP many years later !
I think something like that is in space channel 5 part 2 and rez
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Yes, sega had started, used pieces of it for tech demos, but it was never finished