Coronavirus Pandemic (COVID-19) (SARS-CoV-2) [2020]

Now he’s actually on to the ICU, so it’s less funny.

In the ICU, like being treated? And not just walking around visiting patients in the ICU to see how the front lines are?
 
Since Sunday evening, the prime minister has been under the care of doctors at St Thomas’ Hospital, in London, after being admitted with persistent symptoms of coronavirus.

Over the course of this afternoon, the condition of the prime minister has worsened and, on the advice of his medical team, he has been moved to the intensive care unit at the hospital.

The PM has asked Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab, who is the first secretary of state, to deputise for him where necessary.

The PM is receiving excellent care, and thanks all NHS staff for their hard work and dedication.
 
In the ICU, like being treated? And not just walking around visiting patients in the ICU to see how the front lines are?
When you're in the ICU, it's getting pretty serious. If he continues to deteriorate it will be ventilator time. Hopefully it doesn't get worse than that, there are no options left available for treatment once you progress too far down that path.
 
i remember he was one of those negation-ists, exposing his people and allowing massive sports events and the like.

Stll the UK is different. USA situation is more worrisome, much more, if only rich can pay some kind of hospital or treatment, some governors asking people to sacrifice for the american dream -what a joke-, and companies making employees work -a la gamestop-..... It looks like the usa is going to pass a morals test with this.
 
Wthen you're in the ICU, it's getting pretty serious. If he continues to deteriorate it will be ventilator time. Hopefully it doesn't get worse than that, there are no options left available for treatment once you progress too far down that path.
there is a doctor in the usa who said a few days ago that when the doctors fear you might tire out -cause of the way the virus kills- and you start using a ventilator, 76% to 80% of the people die.

 
When you're in the ICU, it's getting pretty serious. If he continues to deteriorate it will be ventilator time. Hopefully it doesn't get worse than that, there are no options left available for treatment once you progress too far down that path.

Oh, yeah, I know what ICU is, just that on US News they're just as likely to say "Trump was in the ICU of XYZ Hospital" to mean he was on a tour to see how the medical teams are handling the situation. And I only made that clarification because earlier @Shifty Geezer had to clarify:

Hang on, he's not hospitalised. "Taken to hospital" isn't qualified and risks people assuming the worst. I do wish the world used data and info properly to communicate what exactly reality is! He's there having tests, apparently. But if you see the video from before the weekend, he has no trouble breathing and claims only a temperature...
 
On a lighter note...

https://www.news4jax.com/features/2...dvertent-use-of-purge-siren-to-signal-curfew/

Complaints pour in after inadvertent use of ‘Purge’ siren to signal curfew
The alarm sounded identical to an alarm used in the horror franchise, The Purge.

It started when the Crowley Police Department told residents, a new siren would be used to signal the parish-wide curfew which was put in place as a result of coronavirus.

Inadvertently, the police department chose a siren also used in the horror movie, The Purge, which signals all crimes, including murder, are legal for the next 12 hours.

Crowley Police Chief Jimmy Broussard said he had no idea the alarm sound was associated with “The Purge.” He also said he doesn’t plan on using any type of siren moving forward.
 
Oh, yeah, I know what ICU is, just that on US News they're just as likely to say "Trump was in the ICU of XYZ Hospital" to mean he was on a tour to see how the medical teams are handling the situation. And I only made that clarification because earlier @Shifty Geezer had to clarify:
oh lol.

Okay, right; sorry then, yea, Boris is in trouble here.
He is probably on oxygen treatment at this moment, but his condition can just flip suddenly for the worse. I hope the best for him.
 
for those living in the USA, how do you think you can stop it? Does every state follow the same guidelines in such a huge country or there isnt an unified strategy and every state has their politics?
 
Pretty bad for Johnson as he is overweight which gives him additional risk and then when he initially was in denial of the seriousness of the virus and shaking hands with the public. And likely also having infected his pregnant wife that way (she has tested positive now too).
 
Pretty bad for Johnson as he is overweight which gives him additional risk and then when he initially was in denial of the seriousness of the virus and shaking hands with the public. And likely also having infected his pregnant wife that way (she has tested positive now too).
Does he smoke?
 
for those living in the USA, how do you think you can stop it? Does every state follow the same guidelines in such a huge country or there isnt an unified strategy and every state has their politics?

I don't believe USA is any different on this than eu and especially countries that have signed schengen agreement.

Quarantines to stop the spread and get situation back under control. Keep being smart(appropriate social distancing still in effect) after quarantines end and don't hug strangers at grocery store. Heavy use of tests to find out new people with disease, backtrace contacts and quarantine. Possibly travel limitations/quick tests/quarantines at ports of entry. Basically try to stop new spread before it manages to get out of hand again.

Use antibody tests to figure out more details about covid19 and finetune strategy.

I don't think there is good way out of this. It's just varying degrees of mitigation and learning as we go.
 
for those living in the USA, how do you think you can stop it?

Force all news channels and social media outlets to stop carrying everything Trump says. Force everyone to stop listening to what Trump says. Force them to stop bitching about "muh freedumbs". Force them to stop thinking. Force them to follow the medical professionals' advice.

Does every state follow the same guidelines in such a huge country or there isn't an unified strategy and every state has their politics?

The US is like Europe, every state is doing their own thing. It's only when a state is getting hit hard that they then go "OMFG, I guess it's not a hoax and it's more than just the flu like Trump/Fox said multiple times earlier" and start to implement what other states have already put in place.
 
sadly, until we get some high profile deaths, people will think they are invincible.
 
I don't believe USA is any different on this than eu and especially countries that have signed schengen agreement.

Quarantines to stop the spread and get situation back under control. Keep being smart(appropriate social distancing still in effect) after quarantines end and don't hug strangers at grocery store. Heavy use of tests to find out new people with disease, backtrace contacts and quarantine. Possibly travel limitations/quick tests/quarantines at ports of entry. Basically try to stop new spread before it manages to get out of hand again.

Use antibody tests to figure out more details about covid19 and finetune strategy.

I don't think there is good way out of this. It's just varying degrees of mitigation and learning as we go.
small things that complicate it is the details like trying to avoid pushing buttons on the elevators 'cos someone infected might push them already, nor touch a keyboard someone ill touched, or shaking hands with them, sharing items with them, clean all the products you purchased at the mall, also the bags -someone could've touched them-, money, etc etc. Those things are as important as distancing.

An american basketball player who plays in the Real Madrid, went to Italy, he had gloves, a mask, everything! The game was played with no public at all. Yet he got infected...
 
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Force all news channels and social media outlets to stop carrying everything Trump says. Force everyone to stop listening to what Trump says. Force them to stop bitching about "muh freedumbs". Force them to stop thinking. Force them to follow the medical professionals' advice.



The US is like Europe, every state is doing their own thing. It's only when a state is getting hit hard that they then go "OMFG, I guess it's not a hoax and it's more than just the flu like Trump/Fox said multiple times earlier" and start to implement what other states have already put in place.
Trump is everywhere 'cos imho it is like a dictatorship. I mean, he was democratically elected but he can do everything afterwards.

I live in northwestern Spain, and in the country there are a ton of political parties. That might sound bad, but it is good! To create a government 7-8 parties had to agree, and they did. It's tough to take decisions like that but it's for the best.

Compared to my region where one party got the absolute majority of votes, we are in a "dictatorship" in my region. That party can do everything they want. That irates me a lot. :mad: It doesnt hepl that I hate them

Imo, the next evolution for the USA is to allow left -extreme left, moderate left, center left (like say the German/Dutch greens) etc etc- and right -same as before- parties. New blood, young blood, newcomers. The country would be a better country that way, imo.

The current system is flawed imo. 'Cos like with healthcare only rich people are governing? Wish it was Bill Gates or his wife, :smile2: man I could accept that. But no, there is another candidate in the USA for the next election who is rich -Rockefeller or so-. There is a pattern here. :/
 
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sadly, until we get some high profile deaths, people will think they are invincible.
I agree, but I won't like. A few sad martyrs will make the difference, especially as Johnson went from mild for 10 days, to serious. But that's the second-wave issue we've been hearing about.
 
I agree, but I won't like. A few sad martyrs will make the difference, especially as Johnson went from mild for 10 days, to serious. But that's the second-wave issue we've been hearing about.
trouble breathing can swirl out of control quickly. Prolonged periods of lack of oxygen cause all sorts of issues for all your organs. They stop functioning well, they get overworked etc, then once one organ starts to crash the next one and the next one, and they all start crashing the whole system down. It can happen rapidly from no ventilator to ventilator to death in a rapid amount of time.
 
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