Coronavirus Pandemic (COVID-19) (SARS-CoV-2) [2020]

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  1. Shifty Geezer

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    I'm not arguing it, because this isn't the RSPC thread. ;) I'm arguing about the data modelling, that it cant be complete. You can weight the data for people, or ages, or economies, but that's not really insight. The only insight of any use is a magic mirror that can show you different parallel universes for the different choices you can make, where you can look ahead and select the one with the best outcome. Without that, something as complex as this epidemic cannot be safely navigated to the best outcome. It can only be navigated to avoid clear obstacles ahead which might, in the long run, lead you down a path you would have been better off not taking.
     
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    Missouri hair stylist with coronavirus worked while symptomatic, exposed dozens of clients

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/m...osed-dozens-of-clients/ar-BB14tUu5?li=BBnb7Kz

    A hair stylist in Springfield, Missouri, exposed as many as 91 people to coronavirus after working at a salon for eight days while symptomatic, health officials said Friday.

    The exposed include 84 Great Clips customers and, potentially, seven coworkers, said Clay Goddard, director of the Springfield-Greene County Health Department. The condition of the stylist, who was not identified, was not revealed.

    So far, no other positive case connected to the stylist has been confirmed, but the county is nonetheless facing "a glut of cases," Goddard said.

    Those exposed at the salon would be offered tests.

    "The good news is both the clients and the hairstylists were masked" at the time of exposure, he said.

    Goddard said at a news conference Friday that more cases like this would quickly strain Springfield's ability to care for patients.

    "The hair stylist worked while sick," he said. "I'm going to be honest with you -We can't have many more of these."
     
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    Are they able to keep track of the exposed clients? That could be neat (or not).
     
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    Sorry. I reacted precisely because I saw no trace of facts in the message - just agnosticism in its scientific disguise stating that we cannot know anything for sure, along with seemingly hyperbolic suggestion.

    On a further note I have to applaud 3dilettante for your no-nonsense posts. I really like reading your factual output in this topic which at 106 pages contains quite enough of stating the obvious, IMO.
     
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    Pretty interesting if true

     
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    Because it wasn't facts but philosophical discussion.
     
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    Positive cases to tests is around 7.13% and along with increase in CDC Expanded Cases numbers indicates the testing is too limited by still requiring a doctor's recommendation to get tested. There should be no CDC Expanded Cases if you're able to test.

    On Friday Cuyahoga County, which is the Cleveland area and nearest suburbs, was seeing the highest rate of ICU Beds occupied since the beginning of the pandemic, at 77% of all available ICU beds: https://www.cleveland.com/news/2020...st-rate-since-coronavirus-outbreak-began.html

    Ohio did 8.6K tests for today's numbers which is under 40% of the over 22K a day target, with previous days at 3.3K, 3.6K, 5.5K, 4.9K, 6.5K, 5.2K, 4.3K, 4.9K, 5.5K, 8.1K, 7.0K, 8.2K, 12.2K, 8.1K, 5.4K, 7.1K, 8K, 7.4K, 12.7K, 10.3K, 7.8K, 7.2K, 7.5K, 10K, 9.4K, 8.6K.

    Ohio's numbers today, Confirmed: 31,408 (up from 30,794 ), Hospitalized: 5,437 (up from 5,379 ), and Deaths: 1,956 (up from 1,872 ).
    CDC Expanded Cases and Deaths: 2120, 200
    Confirmed Cuyahoga County: 3851 (up from 3762 ) ~ 2.37% increase.

    Percentage increase: 1.99%, 1.08%, 4.49%
    Raw increase: 614, 58, 84

    Ohio has total tests of 314,374 (up from 305,764 ) and tests per 1M population of 26,895 (up from ~ 26,158 ) taken from https://coronavirus.ohio.gov/wps/portal/gov/covid-19/dashboards/key-metrics/cases and https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/ [case numbers updated later]

    They're now using roughly 11.689 million for population of Ohio.
     
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    2019 Novel Coronavirus (SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19) for Dallas County Texas
    https://www.dallascounty.org/departments/dchhs/2019-novel-coronavirus.php

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    May 23, 2020 - 8,649 confirmed cases - 210 deaths

    8,649 confirmed cases up 172 over yesterday and three new deaths
    those 172 new cases represent a 2.0% increase over the last day

    Increases (by percent) over the last 58 days:
    21.0%, 19.6%, 11.1%, 12.5%, 14.9%
    -- Month of April 2020 --
    15.8%, 13.7%, 10.8%, 10.2%, 9.6%, 3.9%, 9.2%, 5.0%, 8.2%, 7.3%, 7.0%, 4.8%, 3.8%, 5.0%, 5.8%,
    4.0%, 6.0%, 6.1%, 4.5%, 3.5%, 3.6%, 3.1%, 3.0%, 2.6%, 2.6%, 3.6%, 3.0%, 4.3%, 3.5%, 5.3%
    -- Month of May 2020 --
    5.3%, 4.9%, 6.0%, 5.7%, 5.9%, 5.3%, 5.2%, 4.9%, 4.7%, 4.5%, 4.3%, 3.9%, 3.8%, 3.6%, 2.9%, 3.0%,
    2.8%, 3.0%, 2.9%, 2.4%, 2.3%, 2.5% and now 2.0%

    Increases (by count) over the last 58 days:
    +64, +72, +49, +61, +82
    -- Month of April 2020 --
    +100, +100, +90, +94, +97. +43, +106, +63, +108, +105, +107, +79, +65, +89, +109,
    +80, +124, +134, +104, +84, +90, +81, +80, +71, +75, +105, +91, +135, +112, +179
    -- Month of May 2020 --
    +187, +181, +234, +237, +253, +246, +251, +249, +250, +251, +253, +236, +243, +235, +199, +214,
    +205, +224, +225, +186, +183, +204 and now +172

     
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    State of Texas complete COVID-19 data breakdown

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    https://txdshs.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/ed483ecd702b4298ab01e8b9cafc8b83
    https://txdshs.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/0d8bdf9be927459d9cb11b9eaef6101f

    Data as of 5/23/2020 @ 3:45 PM:

    Total Tests: 870,935 (Up +36,498) : 6,498 above the 30,000 Daily Tests that the Governor of Texas Abbott promised.
    Total Viral Tests: 762,706 (Up +22,525) Of Today's Tests only 61.7% were Viral Tests. Not Good.
    Total Antibody Tests: 71,731 - Positive Antibody Tests: 2,866
    Positivity Rate (Previous 4 Days): 4.7%, 5.43%, 5.51% and now 5.39%

    Cases Reported: 54,509 (Up +1,060) : 121 less cases today over yesterday.

    Fatalities: 1,506 (Up +26)

    Texas tests per 1M population are 30,037 (Up +1,259) which places Texas as the 7th worst State. No change from yesterday.

    Click this link: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us

    and on the page click the Tests / 1M pop column to sort from worst to first

    They are using roughly 27.996 million as the population of Texas.
     
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    Hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine with or without a macrolide for treatment of COVID-19: a multinational registry analysis

    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31180-6/fulltext
    https://www.thelancet.com/action/showPdf?pii=S0140-6736(20)31180-6

     
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    Second hairstylist potentially exposed 56 clients to Covid-19, officials say

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/s...clients-to-covid-19-officials-say/ar-BB14vZxM

    Two Missouri hairstylists potentially exposed 140 clients to coronavirus when they worked for up to eight days this month while symptomatic, health officials said.

    The Springfield-Greene Health Department announced Saturday that a second hairstylist tested positive for coronavirus, and may have exposed 56 clients at the same Great Clips salon.

    A day earlier, it had said another hairstylist with coronavirus at the same salon potentially exposed 84 customers and seven coworkers.

    Both stylists had symptoms while at work, officials said. They did not provide details on the symptoms they had or when they tested positive.

    Both stylists worked from the second week of May to Wednesday. The clients and the stylists all wore face coverings, the Health Department said. At the time, businesses like barbershops and hair salons were allowed to operate in the state.

    "It is the hope of the department that because face coverings were worn throughout this exposure timeline, no additional cases will result," it added.

    The salon kept impeccable records that made contact tracing possible, said Clay Goddard, director of the Springfield-Greene County Health Department.

    But he cautioned about the risks of overwhelming resources.

    "I'm going to be honest with you: We can't have many more of these,"
    he said at a news conference. "We can't make this a regular habit or our capabilities as a community will be strained."
     
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    The video clips of poolside areas in Missouri are frightening, expect huge spikes in cases and sickness in a couple weeks.
     
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    Surely in the US, if a client of theirs gets Covid19, they'll sue? I'd have thought that threat would see companies not expose clients. It's different if you don't know your employee is infected, but when they have symptoms, as a business I'd have thought you'd have to tell them to go home.
     
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    Is the lack of social-distancing due to a feeling the disease isn't widespread enough to be concerned, or because people think it's not all that bad even if they do get it? Is it the product of misinformation or naivety or a whole mix of the lot?
     
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    Root cause is critical stupidity on all fronts, maybe stems from being "young and dumb". That's what leads to all the bad decisions and bad logic that follow. Some of the comments were of the tone "We're young and living life without fear"

    Here is but a few videos from The Ozarks:



    And another cluster of COVI19 in the making in Sacramento:




    Even Batman gets it...
    EYzEbKcXsAIruUe[1].jpg
     
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    That's what Czechia got so right with their messaging, making it about everyone else. The stereotype of the US does make me expect a larger proportion of the population to be selfish jerks. Not that far ahead of the UK's selfish jerk quotient.

    Edit: You can see in the responses to those tweets the mentality of some people. "99.9% of under 60s recover." Even if that were true, what about all the over-60s those under-60s come into contact with? Or the over 60s that the under 60s that these under 60s come into contact with?
     
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    I'm just boggled at how many people on my block are throwing memorial day get togethers since "the pandemic is all over!". :shock:

    I'm I being cowardly or sane? It all gets so damned confusing! :|
     
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    You're exercising informed caution.
     
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