Coronavirus Pandemic (COVID-19) (SARS-CoV-2) [2020]

eloyc said:
That makes me think, how come we're not all infected, bearing in mind that the infection rates even with quarantine were so big and it's proven that the first cases were long before any measure was applied?
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Maybe the initial strain of SARS-CoV-2 from that time was less potent than what was going around late March through to May?
 
It is a conundrum. The other thing is, we have testing saying all of 5% of people have had Covid19, but way more people are thinking they have had it. What have we had if not covid19 then? It'd be good to identify this 'other' disease which wasn't a typical cold as we've all noted the different symptoms and similarities with Covid19.
 
Shifty Geezer said:
It is a conundrum. The other thing is, we have testing saying all of 5% of people have had Covid19, but way more people are thinking they have had it. What have we had if not covid19 then? It'd be good to identify this 'other' disease which wasn't a typical cold as we've all noted the different symptoms and similarities with Covid19.
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It must be it. And the fact that many confirmed cases tested negative several times even when they already had the same symptoms, is quite clear.
 
Churchgoer potentially exposed 180 others to COVID-19

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/health-news/churchgoer-potentially-exposed-180-others-to-covid-19/ar-BB14ga3o?li=BBnb7Kz

A person in Butte County, California, went to a crowded in-person church service on Mother's Day and then tested positive for COVID-19 one day later. Now health officials say the person potentially exposed 180 others at the church.

An investigation and contract tracing by Butte County Public Health (BCPH) is under way. In a statement, public health officials said individuals attending the service have been notified of their exposure and have been instructed to self-quarantine. The department also said it's working with health care partners to get testing for people who attended the service.

The infected person went into isolation after testing positive — but it was one day too late. Even though gatherings of any size have been officially barred since Governor Gavin Newsom's stay-at-home order went into effect on March 19, the church still opened its doors, putting members of the congregation at risk.

The health department did not name the church involved, but according to Chico/Redding CBS affiliate KHSL-TV, the pastor of the church, located in the town of Palermo, has spoken out about the matter.

"An individual tested positive for it," said Pastor Mike Jacobsen. "They didn't feel sick in any way."
 
Positive cases to tests is around 7.3%, which I think still indicates the testing is too limited by still requiring a doctor's recommendation to get tested.

Ohio's press conference today was extoling the virtues of their vastly improved testing with hitting over 10K on some days. They seem to have dropped any discussion about reaching their initial target of over 22K tests daily. They're posturing that they're doing one hell of a job and everyone should be proud. It's extremely disgusting to see this behavior from medical personal. It's down right pathetic and borderline malicious and criminal.

They should be aiming to do over 50K testing a day before they even talked about planning for reopening. Instead, they started reopening a week ago without ever having the situation under control or even having any idea of how widespread it actually is.

Ohio did 7.2K tests for today's numbers which is barely over 1/3rd of the over 22K a day target, with previous days at 3.3K, 3.6K, 5.5K, 4.9K, 6.5K, 5.2K, 4.3K, 4.9K, 5.5K, 8.1K, 7.0K, 8.2K, 12.2K, 8.1K, 5.4K, 7.1K, 8K, 7.4K, 12.7K, 10.3K, and 7.8K.

Ohio's numbers today, Confirmed: 28,454 (up from 27,923 ), Hospitalized: 4,998 (up from 4,921 ), and Deaths: 1,657 (up from 1,625 ).
CDC Expanded Cases and Deaths: 1,808 , 153
Confirmed Cuyahoga County: 3410 (up from 3321 ) ~ 2.68% increase.

Percentage increase: 1.90%, 1.56%, 1.97%
Raw increase: 531, 77, 32

Ohio has total tests of 270,041 (up from 262,759 ) and tests per 1M population of 23,102 (up from ~ 22,479 ) taken from https://coronavirus.ohio.gov/wps/portal/gov/covid-19/dashboards/key-metrics/cases and https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/ [case numbers updated later]

They're now using roughly 11.689 million for population of Ohio.
 
A1xLLcqAgt0qc2RyMz0y said:
Churchgoer potentially exposed 180 others to COVID-19

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/he...180-others-to-covid-19/ar-BB14ga3o?li=BBnb7Kz
A person in Butte County, California, went to a crowded in-person church service on Mother's Day and then tested positive for COVID-19 one day later. Now health officials say the person potentially exposed 180 others at the church.

An investigation and contract tracing by Butte County Public Health (BCPH) is under way. In a statement, public health officials said individuals attending the service have been notified of their exposure and have been instructed to self-quarantine. The department also said it's working with health care partners to get testing for people who attended the service.

The infected person went into isolation after testing positive — but it was one day too late. Even though gatherings of any size have been officially barred since Governor Gavin Newsom's stay-at-home order went into effect on March 19, the church still opened its doors, putting members of the congregation at risk.

The health department did not name the church involved, but according to Chico/Redding CBS affiliate KHSL-TV, the pastor of the church, located in the town of Palermo, has spoken out about the matter.

"An individual tested positive for it," said Pastor Mike Jacobsen. "They didn't feel sick in any way."
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hm... so this person would have to have been showing/feeling symptoms in order to have gone in for testing in the first place, correct? Or... :?:

And the testing would have been done for how many days before getting the results?
 
TheAlSpark said:
hm... so this person would have to have been showing/feeling symptoms in order to have gone in for testing in the first place, correct? Or... :?:

And the testing would have been done for how many days before getting the results?
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I think the point is that the Pastor and church folks completely disregarded current regulations for gatherings, obviously resulting in this situation.
 
2019 Novel Coronavirus (SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19) for Dallas County Texas
https://www.dallascounty.org/departments/dchhs/2019-novel-coronavirus.php

May 18, 2020 - 7,679 confirmed cases - 177 deaths

7,679 confirmed cases up 224 over yesterday and one new death
those 224 new cases represent a 3.0% increase over the last day

Increases (by percent) over the last 53 days:
21.0%, 19.6%, 11.1%, 12.5%, 14.9%
-- Month of April 2020 --
15.8%, 13.7%, 10.8%, 10.2%, 9.6%, 3.9%, 9.2%, 5.0%, 8.2%, 7.3%, 7.0%, 4.8%, 3.8%, 5.0%, 5.8%,
4.0%, 6.0%, 6.1%, 4.5%, 3.5%, 3.6%, 3.1%, 3.0%, 2.6%, 2.6%, 3.6%, 3.0%, 4.3%, 3.5%, 5.3%
-- Month of May 2020 --
5.3%, 4.9%, 6.0%, 5.7%, 5.9%, 5.3%, 5.2%, 4.9%, 4.7%, 4.5%, 4.3%, 3.9%, 3.8%, 3.6%, 2.9%, 3.0%,
2.8% and now 3.0%

Increases (by count) over the last 53 days:
+64, +72, +49, +61, +82
-- Month of April 2020 --
+100, +100, +90, +94, +97. +43, +106, +63, +108, +105, +107, +79, +65, +89, +109,
+80, +124, +134, +104, +84, +90, +81, +80, +71, +75, +105, +91, +135, +112, +179
-- Month of May 2020 --
+187, +181, +234, +237, +253, +246, +251, +249, +250, +251, +253, +236, +243, +235, +199, +214,
+205 and now +224

As of 11:00 am May 18, 2020, Dallas County Health and Human Services is reporting 224 additional positive cases of 2019 novel coronavirus (COVID-19), bringing the total case count in Dallas County to 7,679, including 177 deaths. The additional death being reported today is of a man in his 60’s who was a resident of the City of Grand Prairie, and had been critically ill in an area hospital.

Of cases requiring hospitalization who reported employment, over 80% have been critical infrastructure workers, with a broad range of affected occupational sectors, including: healthcare, transportation, food and agriculture, public works, finance, communications, clergy, first responders and other essential functions.

Of cases requiring hospitalization, two-thirds have been under 65 years of age, and about half do not have high-risk chronic health conditions. Diabetes has been an underlying high-risk health condition reported in about a third of all hospitalized patients with COVID-19.

Of the 177 total deaths reported to date, over a third have been associated with long-term care facilities.
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State of Texas complete COVID-19 data breakdown

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https://txdshs.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/ed483ecd702b4298ab01e8b9cafc8b83

Data as of 5/18/2020 @ 3:25 PM:

Total Tests: 723,013 (Up +29,737) : Near the 30,000 Daily Tests that the Governor of Texas Abbott promised.
Cases Reported: 48,693 (Up +909) : 124 more cases today over yesterday.
In Hospitals: 1,551 (Up +39)
Patients Recovered (Estimated*) : 28,371 (Up +801)
Fatalities: 1,347 (Up +11)

Texas tests per 1M population are 24,956 (Up +1,470) which places Texas as the 10th worst State. Up two places from yesterday.

Click this link: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us
and on the page click the Tests / 1M pop column to sort from worst to first

They're using roughly 27.996 million as the population of Texas.
 
Malo said:
I think the point is that the Pastor and church folks completely disregarded current regulations for gatherings, obviously resulting in this situation.
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I know, just trying to get an idea of how bad it could be too, timeline-wise, since he'd have to have gotten sick enough to get a test and still did something stupid.
 
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Positive cases to tests is around 6.59%, which I think still indicates the testing is too limited by still requiring a doctor's recommendation to get tested.

Ohio's Trends for hospitalizations is near the highest points they've been in the past 3 weeks.

Ohio did 7.5K tests for today's numbers which is barely over 1/3rd of the over 22K a day target, with previous days at 3.3K, 3.6K, 5.5K, 4.9K, 6.5K, 5.2K, 4.3K, 4.9K, 5.5K, 8.1K, 7.0K, 8.2K, 12.2K, 8.1K, 5.4K, 7.1K, 8K, 7.4K, 12.7K, 10.3K, 7.8K, and 7.2K.

Ohio's numbers today, Confirmed: 28,952 (up from 28,454 ), Hospitalized: 5,117 (up from 4,998 ), and Deaths: 1,720 (up from 1,657 ).
CDC Expanded Cases and Deaths: 1846 , 164
Confirmed Cuyahoga County: 3463 (up from 3410 ) ~ 1.55% increase.

Percentage increase: 1.75%, 2.38%, 3.80%
Raw increase: 498, 119, 63

Ohio has total tests of 277,602 (up from 270,041 ) and tests per 1M population of 23,749 (up from ~ 23,102 ) taken from https://coronavirus.ohio.gov/wps/portal/gov/covid-19/dashboards/key-metrics/cases and https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/ [case numbers updated later]

They're now using roughly 11.689 million for population of Ohio.
 
2019 Novel Coronavirus (SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19) for Dallas County Texas
https://www.dallascounty.org/departments/dchhs/2019-novel-coronavirus.php

May 19, 2020 - 7,904 confirmed cases - 191 deaths

7,904 confirmed cases up 225 over yesterday and fourteen new deaths
those 225 new cases represent a 2.9% increase over the last day

Increases (by percent) over the last 54 days:
21.0%, 19.6%, 11.1%, 12.5%, 14.9%
-- Month of April 2020 --
15.8%, 13.7%, 10.8%, 10.2%, 9.6%, 3.9%, 9.2%, 5.0%, 8.2%, 7.3%, 7.0%, 4.8%, 3.8%, 5.0%, 5.8%,
4.0%, 6.0%, 6.1%, 4.5%, 3.5%, 3.6%, 3.1%, 3.0%, 2.6%, 2.6%, 3.6%, 3.0%, 4.3%, 3.5%, 5.3%
-- Month of May 2020 --
5.3%, 4.9%, 6.0%, 5.7%, 5.9%, 5.3%, 5.2%, 4.9%, 4.7%, 4.5%, 4.3%, 3.9%, 3.8%, 3.6%, 2.9%, 3.0%,
2.8%, 3.0% and now 2.9%

Increases (by count) over the last 54 days:
+64, +72, +49, +61, +82
-- Month of April 2020 --
+100, +100, +90, +94, +97. +43, +106, +63, +108, +105, +107, +79, +65, +89, +109,
+80, +124, +134, +104, +84, +90, +81, +80, +71, +75, +105, +91, +135, +112, +179
-- Month of May 2020 --
+187, +181, +234, +237, +253, +246, +251, +249, +250, +251, +253, +236, +243, +235, +199, +214,
+205, +224 and now +225

As of 11:00 am May 19, 2020, Dallas County Health and Human Services is reporting 225 additional positive cases of 2019 novel coronavirus (COVID-19), bringing the total case count in Dallas County to 7,904, including 191 deaths.

The additional 14 deaths being reported today include:

  • A man in his 40’s who was a resident of the City of Dallas and had been critically ill in an area hospital.
  • A man in his 50’s who was a resident of the City of Grand Prairie and had been critically ill in an area hospital.
  • A woman in her 50’s who was a resident of the City of Grand Prairie and had been critically ill in an area hospital.
  • A man in his 50’s who was a resident of the City of Dallas and was found deceased at home.
  • A man in his 60’s who was a resident of the City of Dallas and had been critically ill in an area hospital.
  • A woman in her 60’s who was a resident of a long-term care facility in the City of Mesquite and had been critically ill in an area hospital.
  • A man in his 60’s who was a resident of a long-term care facility in the City of Mesquite and had been critically ill in an area hospital.
  • A woman in her 60’s who was a resident of the City of Irving and had been critically ill in an area hospital.
  • A man in his 60’s who was a resident of a long-term care facility in the City of Dallas and had been hospitalized.
  • A man in his 70’s who was a resident of the City of Irving and had been critically ill in an area hospital. -A woman in her 70’s who was a resident of a long-term care facility in the City of Irving and had been hospitalized.
  • A man in his 80’s who was a resident of the City of Duncanville and had been critically ill in an area hospital.
  • A woman in her 90’s who was a resident of the City of Garland and had been hospitalized.
  • A man in his 90’s who was a resident of a long-term care facility in the City of Mesquite and expired in the facility.
Of cases requiring hospitalization who reported employment, over 80% have been critical infrastructure workers, with a broad range of affected occupational sectors, including: healthcare, transportation, food and agriculture, public works, finance, communications, clergy, first responders and other essential functions.

Of cases requiring hospitalization, two-thirds have been under 65 years of age, and about half do not have high-risk chronic health conditions. Diabetes has been an underlying high-risk health condition reported in about a third of all hospitalized patients with COVID-19.

Of the 191 total deaths reported to date, over a third have been associated with long-term care facilities.
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State of Texas complete COVID-19 data breakdown

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https://txdshs.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/ed483ecd702b4298ab01e8b9cafc8b83

Data as of 5/19/2020 @ 3:50 PM:

Total Tests: 744,937 (Up +21,924) : 8,076 lower than the 30,000 Daily Tests that the Governor of Texas Abbott promised. Not Good.
Cases Reported: 49,912 (Up +1,219) : 310 more cases today over yesterday.
In Hospitals: 1,732 (Up +181)
Patients Recovered (Estimated*) : 29,359 (Up +988)
Fatalities: 1,369 (Up +22)

Texas tests per 1M population are 26,661 (Up +1,705) which places Texas as the 11th worst State. Up one place from yesterday.

Click this link: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us
and on the page click the Tests / 1M pop column to sort from worst to first

They're using roughly 27.996 million as the population of Texas.
 
Positive cases to tests is around 4.84% and along with increase in CDC Expanded Cases numbers indicates the testing is too limited by still requiring a doctor's recommendation to get tested. There should be no CDC Expanded Cases if you're able to test.

Ohio's Trends remains within the range they've been in the past 3 weeks. No such thing as dropping and with the premature reopening the trend will begin to spike over the next few weeks.

Ohio did 10K tests for today's numbers which is a bit under half of the over 22K a day target, with previous days at 3.3K, 3.6K, 5.5K, 4.9K, 6.5K, 5.2K, 4.3K, 4.9K, 5.5K, 8.1K, 7.0K, 8.2K, 12.2K, 8.1K, 5.4K, 7.1K, 8K, 7.4K, 12.7K, 10.3K, 7.8K, 7.2K, 7.5K.

Ohio's numbers today, Confirmed: 29,436 (up from 28,952 ), Hospitalized: 5,198 (up from 5,117 ), and Deaths: 1,781 (up from 1,720 ).
CDC Expanded Cases and Deaths: 1919, 178
Confirmed Cuyahoga County: 3512 (up from 3463 ) ~ 1.42% increase.

Percentage increase: 1.67%, 1.58%, 3.55%
Raw increase: 484, 81, 61

Ohio has total tests of 287,609 (up from 277,602 ) and tests per 1M population of 24,605 (up from ~ 23,749 ) taken from https://coronavirus.ohio.gov/wps/portal/gov/covid-19/dashboards/key-metrics/cases and https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/ [case numbers updated later]

They're now using roughly 11.689 million for population of Ohio.
 
State of Texas complete COVID-19 data breakdown

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https://txdshs.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/ed483ecd702b4298ab01e8b9cafc8b83

Data as of 5/20/2020 @ 3:30 PM:

Total Tests: 770,241 (Up +25,304) : 4,696 lower than the 30,000 Daily Tests that the Governor of Texas Abbott promised. Not Good.
Cases Reported: 51,323 (Up +1,411) : 192 more cases today over yesterday.
In Hospitals: 1,791 (Up +59)
Patients Recovered (Estimated*) : 30,341 (Up +982)
Fatalities: 1,419 (Up +50)

Texas tests per 1M population are 27,201 (Up +540) which places Texas as the 9th worst State. Down two places from yesterday.

Click this link: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us
and on the page click the Tests / 1M pop column to sort from worst to first

They're using roughly 27.996 million as the population of Texas.
 
Apparently if you don't follow orders to cook the books you're labeled insubordinate, disruptive and disrespectful...

Ousted scientist says she was asked to manipulate Florida COVID-19 data
Jones said she was ordered "to manually change data" to support reopening.

"They are making a lot of changes. I would advise being diligent in your respective uses of this data," she wrote last Friday in a message to researchers and collaborators on the dashboard project. She added, "I would not expect the new team to continue the same level of accessibility and transparency that I made central to the process during the first two months. After all, my commitment to both is largely (arguably entirely) the reason I am no longer managing it."

Late Monday, Jones said she was not only removed from her position heading up the dashboard team but was fired from her job entirely because she refused to juke the stats. In an email to local outlet CBS12, Jones said she lost her position because she refused "to manually change data to drum up support for the plan to reopen" the state.

A spokesperson for Florida's Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis said yesterday that Jones was fired for "a repeated course of insubordination," adding that she exhibited "blatant disrespect" and was "disruptive." DeSantis himself called the allegations of data manipulation "a nonissue."
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https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy...as-asked-to-manipulate-florida-covid-19-data/
 
So not only has the State of Texas only met the 30,000 Daily Tests that the Governor of Texas Abbott promised three times this month now it seems that you really can't trust that those tests were Diagnostic PCR tests and not the antibody tests.

Diagnostic PCR tests, which use saliva or sputum, check for current infection, while antibody tests, which rely on blood, check for past infection. Combining the two into one result could provide an inaccurate picture of where and when the virus spread and mislead policy-makers and the public.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/28/us/coronavirus-testing-pcr-antigen-antibody/index.html
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/ot...y-test-results-skewing-their-data/ar-BB14nrJb
Health officials in at least three states have been combining Covid-19 data on diagnostic tests and antibody tests, skewing results and potentially giving a muddied picture of the virus's spread over time.

Texas, Virginia and Vermont each said they recognized the data issue and moved to fix it in the past few days.

Diagnostic PCR tests, which use saliva or sputum, check for current infection, while antibody tests, which rely on blood, check for past infection. Combining the two into one result could provide an inaccurate picture of where and when the virus spread and mislead policy-makers and the public.

"Public health officials need to know how many people in my state or my community currently have Covid-19. They also need to learn how many people had it in the past and potentially are immune to it," said CNN's senior medical correspondent Elizabeth Cohen. "Those are two completely different things."

Combining the two types of tests could also overstate a state's ability to test and track active infections.

"You only know how many cases you have if you do a lot of testing," Cohen said. "If you put the two tests together, you fool yourself into thinking you've done more testing than you have."

Virginia and Vermont health officials said they fixed the data issue in the past week. Chris Van Duysen, spokesman for the Texas Department of State Health Services, said in an email Monday that the state "will be separating the numbers out this week" and is "working to integrate that into our online reporting."

The issue is just one of the ways that coronavirus testing data can mislead or obscure when not used consistently and appropriately.

For example, some countries and research institutions, including Johns Hopkins University and its widely cited coronavirus dashboard, have relied on data from a mysterious data aggregation site called Worldometer. And in the US in recent days, Georgia and Florida have faced questions about the transparency of their coronavirus data reporting.

Issues in Texas, Virginia and Vermont

The issue in Texas came after the Texas Observer reported the two testing results were being combined. Gov. Greg Abbott said Monday the state is not presently combining the numbers but did not acknowledge that it had been in the past.

"The answer is no. They are not comingling those numbers," Abbott said. "Those numbers will be provided separately."

Texas State Rep. Chris Turner, who leads the House Democratic Caucus, found Abbott's statement puzzling and reached out to the health department after Monday's press conference.

"They confirmed to my staff that in fact the testing total does include the antibody test. They said they would be breaking those out later in the week," Turner said. "But for now the total number of tests reported includes both types of test."

Turner argued that combining the numbers "really muddies the data" and "indicates that our testing total is inflated."

The Department of State Health Services did not provide CNN more specifics Tuesday on what percentage of the total tests being reported are antibody tests.

As of Wednesday morning, the department's website said the state had a total of 744,937 tests, 23,601 of those are from public labs, while 721,336 are from private labs. The state is reporting a total of 49,912 positive cases. The state's coronavirus dashboard did not yet reflect a distinction in antibody tests versus active virus tests.

Abbott has been touting the low positivity rate in the state. It's unclear how many of those positive cases are from antibody tests or active infection tests.

Virginia similarly had been combining its antibody and diagnostic tests in its reported testing data, the Virginia Department of Health said last week. The department said separating out the results made "minimal change in the percent positive of tests and no difference in overall trends."

Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam, a pediatric neurologist, said he directed the Department of Health to separate out the testing results last week.

"I am a doctor, and I have said all along that I will act based on science and data—and the data must be reliable and up-to-date, so we can make informed decisions based on the facts," he wrote on Twitter. "Going forward, the (Virginia Department of Health) website will break out the number of diagnostic tests."

Vermont, too, began separating its antibody test results from its diagnostic test results on May 16, according to the Department of Health.

"As we began seeing an increase in serology tests, we realized this is impacting the number and needed to correct it," said Ben Truman, spokesman for Vermont's Department of Health.
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I would not be surprised if Ohio is also commingling their tests nunbersvtoo. I know they started antibody tests last week but do not see that reported separately on their site. So I have to wonder where is that data?
 
So, Sweden is now at top of the weekly Covid-19 mortality statistics with stable deaths rate. What was it again in the statistics from Sweden that show development of herd immunity?
Incidentally, their chief epidemiologist now stated that talks of getting rid of the disease through herd immunity is nonsense, vaccine being the only way to stop it.

https://www.ft.com/content/46733256-5a84-4429-89e0-8cce9d4095e4
 
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