Baseless Next Generation Rumors with no Technical Merits [post E3 2019, pre GDC 2020] [XBSX, PS5]

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    It's the same thing.

    The reason he was questioned on it was because PS5 slides say "Hardware Based Ray Tracing". The industry standard for dedicated silicon is 'Hardware Accelerated'.
    Hardware based is not standard, so he went to clarify it.

    MS has not needed to issue a statement because I don't believe any credible journalists following XSX have found issues with their messaging at all.
     
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    Is it safe? Are we drinking all together?

    Why are you the only one without a cup?
     
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    That brings me back to my earlier question yesterday in this thread about Arden that is associated with XSX by speculators supposedly because of the CU count. Arden is the maiden name of Shakespeare's mother and the name of the complete works of Shakespeare. If you include Prospero there, it is a Sony code name, not AMD. Why did Sony choose to share their code name glossary with Microsoft?
     
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    Indeed, on B3D no-one should be insinuated as a biased fanboy ever. Someone's opinions may indeed come from a very biased position, but it's the ideas that we talk about and not where they come from.

    Rare threads like this will go somewhat into personalities when trying to discern validity of a source, but that's always external characters such as website allegiances.
     
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    Its not because CU count, its because BC0 mode contains 4RBs (16ROPs) and besides Xbox One, no other console had 16ROPs. Also because Arden, as someone has already mentioned, is small town in Arkansas, as is Sparkman (which contains same BC0 mode).

    CU count is only indicated by theoretical value, as is 320bit bus (which matches Scarlett video reveal).
     
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    Coincidence? Or did Shakespeare have insider info when he was naming his characters works? :neutral:
     
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    I don't think the name of the town in the States predates the original Arden in the UK.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arden,_Warwickshire
     
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    There is no character named Arden in Shakespear works :p

    Well, of course it doesn't, that is not what I am saying.

    There are 3 semi custom SOCs leaked in Github document. Oberon, Arden and Sparkman.

    Oberon matches PS4 and PS4 Pro BC configuration (that means, clocks, BW and CUs). Oberon regression test contains tidbit such as :

    Arden and Sparkman match Xbox One and XBX BC configuration. Both of these have same blocks and block owners, and coincidentally both of them are small towns in same US state - Arkansas. MS has a history of town/city based codenames, probably half of their codenames across all products come from towns.
     
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    We just haven't discovered those works by Shakespeare ...
     
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    The deletion of a post in no way lends credibility to it.

    A manufacturer would want false information about their products removed as well as actual leaks.
     
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    His point is valid as long as it predates Xsx.

    Durango
    Yukon
     
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    Of course, but the point is - data comes from actual manufacturer. It is removed because its sensitive internal info, even if outdated. Its still best we have, by far.
     
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    For XSX its 2CUs too much that were deactivated. For PS5, it doesn't have to be it. While Github does point to 36CU part, there is a chance its actually 36+ and BC1/BC2 as well as Native show different picture by deactivating CUs to 36.
     
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    To me this really well made images just confirm the leaks... I think Sony is pushing their silicon to the limit that is 40CU@2.0 ghz=10.2 TF ... probably they wanted to be 36@1.8 ghz but MS surprised them with stronger silicon
     
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    The 2.0 GHz rumors predated any leaks from MS.
     
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