Baseless Next Generation Rumors with no Technical Merits [post E3 2019, pre GDC 2020] [XBSX, PS5]
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The bridge will cost no more than $399.
It's new to me that the X1 is limited to 62.5MB/s
I think x1 was 40 MB/s and x1x is around 60 MB/s.
Silent_Buddha
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So we have "some people" trying to directly compare statements that aren't comparable? Sounds about right.
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Xsx 2GB/s SSD is the info from windowscentral, and it seems that eurogamer has the same spec.
The info has high credibility.
Sony never said 10 times faster of loading times. They say PS5 SSD is faster than all current SSD.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tech/9119249/ps5-demo-loading-times-under-second/
Sony gave is a video shown to inversters which PS5 loadeded 0.83s while PS4 Pro loaded 8.1s.
Some media speculate that PS5 has 10x faster loading.
I am curious how to achieve. The only scenario is that SONY has very good deals with RAM and NAND manufacturers.
In current generation PS4 has higher TFs, faster memory lower BOM compared with xboxone (not including kinect).
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10x speed of a hdd hardly requires any secret sauce to achieve. Nvme can accomplish that with room to spare.
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Yup, but you can already put crazy fast SSD's in RAID arrays into PCs now and these have not eliminated loading times. Getting the data to where it's needed is the more likely source of the bottleneck along with very little optimisation for systems with very fast SSDs.
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But sony does something special nvme or not.
This thread moves too fast for me. Anyway, regarding the pricing/viability of HBM for consoles, my point was that extrapolating costs from current estimated prices is folly, as an order of total PS5 size would change the landscape of HBM completely. (It would be of a total value sufficient to set up an entire memory fab from the ground up!) Any memory manufacturer getting that order would be catapulted to a position where it would be the undisputed volume manufacturer of HBM, all specialised equipment needed for high volume manufacturing could be paid for without risk, and your volume advantage could conceivably be leveraged to either get better margins on the product you sell to everyone else, or more interesting to push for wider HBM adoption, which would benefit you, the worlds premier supplier of HBM memory solutions.
Producing HBM memory stacks at such volumes would simply change the overall market outlook of HBM in ways that might be very interesting for any player there other than possibly Samsung.
Then again, if both the PS5 and XBNext use GDDR6, such speculation is a waste of time.
Until we know, nothing wrong with speculation and discussion, not a waste at all.
Metal_Spirit
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It’s way faster than that. Sony never mentioned 10x, and that calculation is wrong.
If you remember what Cerny stated, he mentioned that PS4 HDD requires some data to be copied up to 400x, in order to achieve higher speeds. Cerny stated that the SSD would eliminate such redundancies.
That quote would logically be about space a game required and has nothing to do with performance or bandwidth.
I.E data duplication to create chunks of contiguous data to stream to work about physical HDD performance constraints.
AbsoluteBeginner
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It doesnt make sense.
88 rops sounds fishy.
Same number of ROP than the 2080 TI. Probably big bus and high speed GDRR6.
So that could only be Gddr6, 22 GB, 352bits.
But AMD never had an rop count that isn't 2's exponent.
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