Anyone know the cost difference between brd discs and dvd?

[PC-Engine]

So people are now going buy an "overpriced" HD-DVD hybrid of a movie they could get on plain DVD, where they would not for BR? 'kay...

As you said, they're preparing for the future just like those who would buy BR movies even though they don't have HDTVs. Difference here is they can watch new releases right away on a cheap $25 DVD player or DVD drive on their PC or portable DVD player while waiting for the HD DVD players to drop in price.

 

[randycat99]

...or they could buy the BR and play it on their PS3 or just stick with DVD's for a little longer. Essentially, the issue you bring is a wash overall, and at its best, only has a minor effect in the short term before PS3 comes out.

Either that, or your argument outright fails for the same reason you rejected the very same scenario for "future proofing" for BR purchases, only a few posts ago. So do you concede that this is a real effect (and rescind your earlier rebuttal), or do you maintain that the argument applied to BR and HD-DVD alike are still baloney? Which is it?

 

[PC-Engine]

...or they could buy the BR and play it on their PS3 or just stick with DVD's for a little longer. Essentially, the issue you bring is a wash overall, and at its best, only has a minor effect in the short term before PS3 comes out.

Either that, or your argument outright fails for the same reason you rejected the very same scenario for "future proofing" for BR purchases, only a few posts ago. So do you concede that this is a real effect (and rescind your earlier rebuttal), or do you maintain that the argument applied to BR and HD-DVD alike are still baloney? Which is it?

Both BR and HD DVD movies will not get purchased in any great numbers, but for the people who decide to buy them even though they don't have HDTVs, more people would buy the hybrid HD DVD titles since more people already have DVD players.

 

[Sean*O]

I don't even think the point is if people will buy hybrid HD-DVD to play on standard DVD players until they can afford a HD-DVD player vs. people buying BRD and playing it on PS3 at 480p DVD resolution..

I think the point is that movie studios can cover both markets of standard def DVD and HD-DVD with one production run, while Sony and BRD supporters will still be producing double lots of every BR title, and fighting for double the shelf space in stores (which isn't going to happen given DVDs popularity.)

 

[jvd]

I don't even think the point is if people will buy hybrid HD-DVD to play on standard DVD players until they can afford a HD-DVD player vs. people buying BRD and playing it on PS3 at 480p DVD resolution..

I think the point is that movie studios can cover both markets of standard def DVD and HD-DVD with one production run, while Sony and BRD supporters will still be producing double lots of every BR title, and fighting for double the shelf space in stores (which isn't going to happen given DVDs popularity.)

Thats exactly it .

Which is what makes it very interesting if tl is avalible at launch that will be a great advantage .

It still depends on price though .


If say a tl hd-dvd is 20$ a dvd is 10$ and a bluray is 20$ i think alot of people will pick up the tl hd-dvd as they can use it on thier hd-dvd tv in thier main viewing area . But also use it in thier old dvd players in the car , the kids room , thier room or whatever .

Its interesting . I don't know if its enough to win the war but its def an interesting development

 

[scooby_dooby]

Adding to your point, mckmas, I think this pretty much sums up the vicious loop scooby_dooby (aka chap) seems to have carved out for himself. He makes the argument about people counting their last pennies to make it through the month, but then suggests $1k hi-def players and big screen HDTV's are somehow more worthy/likely purchases for that same demographic?...

chap?

when did I ever suggest $1000 HD-DVD will sell? how about you find me the quote or quit putting words in my mouth?

My point was most peple don't have money to spare to spend on something that has absolutely no tangible benefit in the forseeable future. Furthermore, it's not even an accepted standard so the whole notion of "future-proofing" by buying blu-ray is a ridiculous notion. If another format is adopted you done anything but future-proof.

Don't try and badmouth me just because your argument is weak. I could care less which format gets adopted, I'll buy a PS3 because it will be a cheap player in the short term to show off my HDTV.

But beyond the short term I just want whichever technology will move the fast, and be the most affordable for recording, media and players. Other than that it means absolutely nothing to me.

 

[jvd]

Alright this thread is done . Having a calm rational conversation just isn't possible .