Any Killzone impressions yet?

marconelly! said:
and framerate was under 30 as well, which is bad in the land of Black and Timesplitters 3
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Timesplitters 3 does run at 60, but it looks a lot worse than KZ, in my opinion - so I guess it's some kind of tradeoff... Black will be released almost a year after KZ so that's hardly an actual competition.
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If the beta of black runs at 60fps, it is a shem for the almost finished Killzone. Anyway, the media hyping Black are the same that hyped Killzone 6months ago (as the most impressive ps2 game yet).

What also surprised me is that most people agreed that Burnout 3 looks better, and is more fun than Outrun 2, and that it looks pretty much equal on PS2 and Xbox. Apparently EA's production quality + Criterion's coding is a real winning combination.
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Sega (and Namco) are not the 3D powerhouse they used to be. 5 years ago, nobody could have match them in the west.
 
Anyway, the media hyping Black are the same that hyped Killzone 6months ago (as the most impressive ps2 game yet).
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Well, truth be told, Gamespot (and Kasavin especially) have *never* hyped Killzone. He is one of the most 'down to earth' reviewers out there, and extremely hard to impress, from what I have seen.
 
Sega (and Namco) are not the 3D powerhouse they used to be. 5 years ago, nobody could have match them in the west.
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I gotta disagree... There have been studios all over the world who have done impressive 3D work (particularly in the UK) over the past 10-20 years...

Well, truth be told, Gamespot (and Kasavin especially) have *never* hyped Killzone.
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I'd hardly consider Killzone even hyped... It's been so low-key for so long, that unless you're a complete die-hard gamer who keeps their finger on the pulse of the PS2 and gaming industry in general, Killzone would've hardly measured a beat... Somebody shouting that something is the greatest thing since sliced bread doesn't really make it hype if hardly anybody is listening...
 
archie4oz said:
Sega (and Namco) are not the 3D powerhouse they used to be. 5 years ago, nobody could have match them in the west.
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I gotta disagree... There have been studios all over the world who have done impressive 3D work (particularly in the UK) over the past 10-20 years...
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The fact is that Sega and Namco are just like-any-others companies now. Pretty weird considering how strong Namco was in the ps1 days.

I'd hardly consider Killzone even hyped... It's been so low-key for so long, that unless you're a complete die-hard gamer who keeps their finger on the pulse of the PS2 and gaming industry in general, Killzone would've hardly measured a beat... Somebody shouting that something is the greatest thing since sliced bread doesn't really make it hype if hardly anybody is listening...
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Black is no more known than Killzone as for now. When we talk about the "Black hype", of course it concerns only a small portion of gamers, and those gamers were also those hyped by Killzone 6 months ago.
 
IGN-PS2 declared Killzone its PS2 game of E3. I also read KZ previews at IGN & Gamespot. They are extremely encouraging. Writers seem to be extremely impressed with KZ. Looks like KZ may live up to the hype. I hope so.
 
http://games.kikizo.com/news/200405/038.asp

Some 30mins of Killzone footage here, along with 3 videos showing 3 different levels. Probably the best videos so far for getting a feel of what it will be like. These ones, unlike most of the footage thats been on PS2 dvd coverdiscs, finally appear to do the developers hard work justice. Framerate appears to have improved ( smoother looking ), neat fx work and good sound ( apart from the character that sounds like GoldMember :) from the Austin Powers flick ). Just the odd looking anim / skating characters / ropey looking a.i to sort out before release....

One other title that's also caught the eye is Area51 from Midway. Could be a bit of a sleeper hit, if it has a decent enough marketing push behind it.
 
I have seen many threads all across the net talking about the difference between 60fps and 30fps, but I really don't see the difference. If NTSC is at 29.97 fps or ~30fps, then it is not like you see 60fps right? Only 30. So can someone please fill me in on this.
 
So can someone please fill me in on this.
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On XBox: Play Rallisport Challenge 2 (which is 60FPS), then play PGR2 (30FPS).
On PS2 and GC: Play Burnout 2 in single player mode (60FPS) and then in split screen mode (30FPS)

The difference in these examples is pretty striking, but if you can't see it, you probably don't have to concern with it anyways.
 
There's also my voice in a couple of them! :)

[them = the videos not the game sequences]

Wow, I feel so proud of myself. Anyone wonna touch me?
 
Sega (and Namco) are not the 3D powerhouse they used to be. 5 years ago, nobody could have match them in the west.
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I gotta disagree... There have been studios all over the world who have done impressive 3D work (particularly in the UK) over the past 10-20 years...
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And Sony knew this the day they bought Psygnosys....
 
ShinHoshi said:
And Sony knew this the day they bought Psygnosys....
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Sony psygnosys venture has its up and down during the years. It gave Sony a big boost during the early days of the ps1, then everything went bad, psygnosis was absorded within Sony UK and a lot of people went away (wipeout team to Curly monster, Destruction Derby team somewhere else and an other team founded the WRC studio).
 
Polarbear53:
If NTSC is at 29.97 fps or ~30fps, then it is not like you see 60fps right?
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NTSC actually refreshes every 1/60th of a second, but in alternating screen halves only (it draws every other line on each update). This is what is meant by "interlaced". So, it takes twice as long, 1/30th of a second, before the full screen is refreshed.

Non-interlaced (also called progressive scan/proscan) display devices, like some HDTVs and monitors, update every line on the screen at each 1/60th of a second update. This is what makes their image look more solid as there is no inherent flicker from interweaving two parts of the image together over time.
 
Ahh yes, I never thought about it like that. I just thought about it like it sent the whole frame at once. I get you, thank you for answering that!
 
TTP said:
There's also my voice in a couple of them! :)

[them = the videos not the game sequences]

Wow, I feel so proud of myself. Anyone wonna touch me?
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Well done ttp....you've done B3D proud. :p
 
MoodyB said:
http://games.kikizo.com/news/200405/038.asp

Some 30mins of Killzone footage here, along with 3 videos showing 3 different levels......
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How to download these videos?? These are streamed vidoes...
 
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