another Dave Orton interview
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Randell said:Bjorn said:
Have you read DO's interview with Wavey
Of course. It's just that i don't really buy the "we didn't want to" statement and don't agree with Ortons reasons as for why they did it. As for the reason why the R420 doesn't have any new features, well, they could be many.
Quoting myself here (http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12249):
Maybe you should think again with keeping one thing as the higher priority: it is a business.
Look at the Nv40, yes they added features as they needed to because they wanted to gain back some mindshare. But they produced a card that is a very inelegant solution for a consumer.
Look at the Nv40, yes they added features as they needed to because they wanted to gain back some mindshare. But they produced a card that is a very inelegant solution for a consumer.
Heathen said:
Actually , he said very inelegant, which i disagree with. You could argue that the 6800 Ultra is a very inelegant solution because of the two molexes and the power requirements, but it's a high end card and also not a mass market product at this moment. And of course, the final cards aren't on the market yet so we don't really know what to expect yet.
Bjorn, my questioning was very specific wrt why they opted not to support SM3.0, and the real answer is there - they want to make a product they can make a profit on. The whole of ATI's business is geared to die size, and they chose feature support/performance that they could sensibly get from current processes and make a healthy profit from (note the die size doesn't change significantly from R300).
As for the 6800 boards - 1, do you think many vendors will have aything that isn't the reference, given the pattern over the past year? 2, given they are shipping soon, are there likely to be many big changes? 3, why do board vendors have them in the current config that can't run without 2 psu's?
As for the 6800 boards - 1, do you think many vendors will have aything that isn't the reference, given the pattern over the past year? 2, given they are shipping soon, are there likely to be many big changes? 3, why do board vendors have them in the current config that can't run without 2 psu's?
DaveBaumann said:
It's just that i don't believe that the answer is as simple as "we didn't want to". I'm of the opinion that the real answer is "we put most of our resources on the next gen chips instead". And that's not necessarily a bad thing considering the foundation they used but a bit dissapointing nonetheless. And that's of course the way that they will make the absolut most profits from. No big changes in the driver and they'll be able to keep their current parts as low - mid end since they'll have the same featureset. Aren't they going to rename the RV370 to X something ?
I've already said that i doubt that the 6800 Ultra will come without the two molex connectors and 2 slot solution. But there are other versions and it's not really correct to say that the NV4X as a whole are an inelegant solution.
PatrickL said:
Are you talking about the 6800 Ultra only then or ?
Cause the GT seems to be a single slot, single molex solution.
http://www.firingsquad.com/media/article_image.asp?fs_article_id=1474&pic_id=01
Why are you only considering the molex part and not the whole card?
PS Anyway i stop arguing here, I won't spend my day arguing about that. I just now that when i posted the pictures of both cards in my guild forum, saying that both cards were giving overall the same performance, theses consumers had a good laugh
PS Anyway i stop arguing here, I won't spend my day arguing about that. I just now that when i posted the pictures of both cards in my guild forum, saying that both cards were giving overall the same performance, theses consumers had a good laugh
PatrickL said:
What's wrong with the rest of the card ? Is it to big to fit in the computer or ?
PS Anyway i stop arguing here, I won't spend my day arguing about that. I just now that when i posted the pictures of both cards in my guild forum, saying that both cards were giving overall the same performance, theses consumers had a good laugh
I guess you forgot to tell them that the NV4X also had a lot more features ?
Joe DeFuria
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Bjorn said:
A lot? :?
Would be easier for him to do, for example, if even nVidia could demonstrate exactly how those "lot" of features actually makes a difference they would care about?
Joe DeFuria said:
Yes, a lot, though you might not agree. FP blending seems to be a feature to care about and isn't even SM3.0 specific.
Seems to be other minor stuff also:
http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12249
