They said the exact same thing before Vega FE, referencing Epyc, Threadripper and Ryzen. Maybe some Radeon Pro and Instinct. So yeah, I'd say the impossible is probably one of those.
https://videocardz.com/70655/amd-announces-capsaicin-siggraph-with-no-word-about-rx-vega
We made a promise to launch RX Vega during SIGGRAPH, Ali. In fact, our CEO made that promise. We’re going to keep it
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The slightly lower bandwidth offered by HBM2 aside, the most notable shortfall so far for that concept is the 4+ TF count, which in the HPC context would have been double-precision throughput.
Perhaps that's what all the spare area in the Vega boards is about...
Thank you sincerely, everybody living under a rock knows RX Vega is part of SIGGRAPH by now.
As Malo capably explained, I am making the connection between AMD's "impossible" mantra and their CPU and pro products, a connection they made themselves a month ago.
Considering what AMD revealed in the FAD, I imagine 1/2DP Vega will actually be on 14nm+.The slightly lower bandwidth offered by HBM2 aside, the most notable shortfall so far for that concept is the 4+ TF count, which in the HPC context would have been double-precision throughput.
Whether Vega physically has enabled IO space for 4 GMI links is unknown.
It seems like that Greenland is what is in the upcoming Vega products, but no 1/2 rate floating point has been indicated. If the supposed leaked slides for future compute cards are accurate, it wouldn't be offered until a 7nm Vega chip with 4 stacks comes out despite Greenland being capable.
Perhaps that's what all the spare area in the Vega boards is about...
So if AMD jump the 14++ to the 7 then Vega 20 for 2018 and Navi for 2019 if not then navi will be 14++ in 2019 or in 2020 on 7nm.
There is no 14nm++ in GF. First products from GF at 7nm will start mass production in late 2018 and products to the market will depend on yields and how late that date is. So most probably expect big products using that node in early 2019. So if everything goes well 14nm+ for 2018, 7nm 2019 and 7nm+ 2020.
Oh yeah, I confuse the presentation about 7nm to the 14.
I mean, having 1/2 DP would explain the size and performance. All the extra transistors went for that. But then why not offer a 1/2 DP card to the HPC market? Hawaii was the last one AMD released, and that's simply not good enough.
http://www.gamersnexus.net/news-pc/3000-amd-gaming-pro-mode-and-other-driver-updates
I'm not sure where any of that came from. I think you're just making up stuff. There was certainly some basic discussion about whether or not FE and RX were different in any way other than the HBM2 stacks and speculation regarding certain advertised features working/not working but I don't think anyone here said anything about massive performance deltas between the 2 products.
