almighty has a 360!! Thoughts and game sugestions

If you are a power user, Live is definitely worth it. For me, I don't game online often enough, but I still really enjoy doing it occasionally. Here, Live does not suit me. It would be better if party chat, invites and such were behind the pay-wall, but online gaming in itself wasn't, and ditto for apps. I do expect there will be a change here next gen.

 

I see the problem and I understand you. But I guess you know that Xbox Live party chat is not the solution to your problem either. You describe a rather special case with MMOs: How many people can join a Xbox Live party chat at once?

But I agree that a standard voice chat is of great benefit and helps making things easy in a lot of cases. I may not be that much dependent on this due to my gaming habbits (typically playing with the same bunch of people and not that often with strangers) but I still wonder if standard voice chat needs to cost money.

What are the other benefits that Gold offers? Online play? That is free on PSN and Steam (maybe not for your MMO, that could be the reason why you are more used to 'pay for play').

I may be d'accord to pay extra for party chat as an optional feature, but my opinion is that online play should be somehow free. I know it is difficult, because those services are closely connected to each other in Live. But one is allowed to dream, right?

Well, it seems that there are just different opinions about this, I do not want to derail the thread any further at this point.

 

I just dig out Kameo...great game! Even the graphics are still nice.

 

Yeah, polycount is s bit low...but overall still nice to look at imo.

 

I understood perfectly your point but you didnt get mine.

 

That seems pricey for just chat service you must have deep pockets

 

Considering the headaches I've had with it over the past 15 years whether in a FPS like Quake/Quake 2/UT or MMO's like EQ, EQ2, VG, Eve Online, etc. it'd be worth it for me.

Yeah 10 USD would be on the high side. But that just exemplifies how much I think it's worth to be able to have universal voice that anyone and everyone can easily drop in and drop out of.

The quantity isn't what matters as Billy Idol thought I meant (not his fault since I focused on the MMO voice chat experience), but the convenience.

Being able to have something universal that people can drop into and drop out of at anytime without ever having to...

1. Ask them to pop into our voice chat.
2. Determine if they have Ventrilo (what we usually use)
3. If they have Ventrilo go to step 7, otherwise continue.
4. If they don't have Ventrilo, instruct them how to get it an install it.
5. If they don't know how to configure it, instruct them on how to configure it.
6. If their mic isn't properly calibrated, instruct them on how to configure it.
7. Tell them what the Ventrilo server address and connection info is.
7a. Tell them again if they don't get it right.
8. Pray that they don't have a wonkey setup where you get "helicopter noises" while they are talking, or too low/too high volume, or any other problems.
9. Finally get to play.

It's annoying in general after you've gone through this a few hundred times. It's even more annoying if you want to do it in a team based FPS where by the time you get some people setup, the match is over and you may never see that person again.

So while 10 USD a month would be on the high side (I know Guild leaders who pay upwards of 50 USD or more a month for a quality voice chat server host), it would be worth it to me just not to ever have to deal with the above ever again.

Don't even get me started on problems that come up for games that have native voice chat support. Grrrr.

Regards,
SB

 

Sorry mate, that'll be my last post on that topic in here.

Regards,
SB

 

Don't be surprised, every thread about 360 on the net eventually comes down to "Xbox Live sucks/PSN is equally good but I've never used Live" & "360 has no games" arguments...you'll get used to it.

Back on topic Kameo was indeed a great game, I have to replay this beauty at some point....Nuts & Bolts also looks incredible IMO, Rare created some really impressive looking games on the 360.

I also have a 14 days Xbox Live Gold trial that I don't need, check your PM's.

 

While every console thread that mentions PCs ends up becoming a thread about PC prices and value. And every thread that takes a technical look at what developers do either becomes a "this platform is best" 'debate' when they've done a good job, or "stupid lazy devs don't know how to use the system properly" when the game's no so hot.

Every. Single. One.

 

about voice chat.
doesnt all pc games already have built-in voice chat? Surprisingly, BF3 dont have text chat (only voice chat) in co op mission :/

but i have never experienced "Full Xbox Live"* so i dont really know what feel good there.

Xbox Live Gold in here is very limited.
- almost no apps
- laggy games
- Kinect voice command disabled dashboard-wide :/

 

My favorite 360 game is Red Dead Redemption, give it a shot you won't be disappointed. The 360 version is much better than PS3.