6800 Go vs. Mobility X800

[kemosabe]

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1558,1768257,00.asp

Beyond ATI's probable driver issue in HL2, the evidence that an R520 rescue is required is mounting.

 

[jvd]

looks pretty close to even to me , the 6800 seems to pull ahead a bit , but then again the power consumption diffrences may be enough to push it back towards ati , or it might not .

I hardly see them needing a r520

 

[Pete]

I don't get it. Beyond the 680's expected Doom 3 dominance and what appears to be a HL2 glitch (they couldn't try a manual FRAPS run, or the VST, or different settings?), the two cards seemed pretty close. And I don't think the review mentioned anything about price or power draw.

Come to think of it, did they even mention how much memory each GPU is paired with? Edit: 256MB each, according to Eurocom.

The transistor count difference is surprisingly huge, though. That's a lot of extra baggage if it isn't being used, which is probably why nV paid to make SCX exclude the PS2 path for DX9 cards.

 

[Moloch]

I agree with the last two posters, what are you talking about, dominating?
doom 3, by like 10 fps?
And a HL2 bug or something.
Related to the bug that techreport gets also in canals?

 

[kemosabe]

In the past ATI's high-end mobile chips would maintain a substantial lead over NVDA - that lead has gradually evaporated and will eventually result in lost OEM market share, especially in the performance mainstream notebook segment where Mobility 9600/9700 have been untouchable and NVDA has improved power draw.

 

[swaaye]

In the past ATI's high-end mobile chips would maintain a substantial lead over NVDA - that lead has gradually evaporated and will eventually result in lost OEM market share, especially in the performance mainstream notebook segment where Mobility 9600/9700 have been untouchable and NVDA has improved power draw.

nVidia has a good architecture now. Previously they were relying on the garbage NV3x and antiquated NV17. The GF4Ti4200 mobile was a last ditch effort at one point, but it wasn't a mobile chip at all. ATI has had far more capable mobile options with RV250 and RV350 than NV has had for years! NV3X couldn't even compete with a RV350 in DX9 until the 5950, and they couldn't stick that thing in a notebook. (5950 Ultra loses to 9600XT in 3dmark05, )

The GF6 series obviously was designed to scale well for low end and mobile offerings.

 

[OICAspork]

In the past ATI's high-end mobile chips would maintain a substantial lead over NVDA - that lead has gradually evaporated and will eventually result in lost OEM market share, especially in the performance mainstream notebook segment where Mobility 9600/9700 have been untouchable and NVDA has improved power draw.

Actually ATI has always 'maintained a substantial lead over NVDA' in performance for power drawn? Remember the Mobile GF4? It blew away the Mobile Radeon at the time, but unfortunately also the notebook battery. I'm very curious here about the battery draw for these two boards.

 

[Zaphod]

Actually ATI has always 'maintained a substantial lead over NVDA' in performance for power drawn? Remember the Mobile GF4? It blew away the Mobile Radeon at the time

Well... The GeForce4 4200 Go wasn't that much faster than the Mobility 9000, cost three times as much and was only (?) available for a short time in a single Dell model, the Inspiron 8500. (Allthough I think it later resurfaced in the Latitude D800.) They can't have sold many of them at the time.

I always saw that chip as serving only one purpose: Press -> Bragging rights -> Mindshare. I suspect they didn't really intend for it to be a genuine product, but had to ship a couple to keep up apperances.