5600 non-Ultra clock speeds

[Ante P]

Ok here's a batch of questions:

1. Clock speeds of 5600 non-Ultra?
2. The final clock speeds of the 5200 Ultra got to be 350/700 instead of 325/650
3. Pixel pipes TMUS, how does the 5600 and 5200 differ, nvidia claims 4x1 for both

haven't really kept up to date with NV31 and NV34 and I'm doing a chart over GPU specs

 

[Pete]

GamePC 5600R review: 325/275.

If the 5600 is 4x1 with 80mil transistors, I don't see how a 45mil trans 5200 can be 4x1 and also have the full complement of pixel and vertex shaders. I thought the 5200 was (real) 2x1?

 

[RussSchultz]

Z compression, I believe, is one large part removed from NV34. It also has fewer functional units (adders/multipliers, etc) which feed those 4 pipes.

 

[Arun]

GamePC 5600R review: 325/275.

If the 5600 is 4x1 with 80mil transistors, I don't see how a 45mil trans 5200 can be 4x1 and also have the full complement of pixel and vertex shaders. I thought the 5200 was (real) 2x1?

NV30: 4x2 ( or 8x0 *sigh* )
NV31: 4x1 without shaders, 2x2 with shaders
NV34: 4x1 without shaders, 1x2 with shaders

Note: the per-pipe shader performance is identical to the NV30's.


Uttar

 

[Psikotiko]

The 5200 64MB has a 64bit memory bus :?

http://www.evga.com/products/moreinfo.asp?Part_Number=064-A8-N302-T3

"Video Memory Installed: 64MB 64-bit 5ns DDR"

 

[RussSchultz]

At least one of the 128meg 5200s from eVGA has 64 bit memory interface, also.

Its more irritating than all the vendors that call all 9500's "9500"'s no matter whether its a pro or not.

Grrrr.

 

[Ante P]

At least one of the 128meg 5200s from eVGA has 64 bit memory interface, also.

Its more irritating than all the vendors that call all 9500's "9500"'s no matter whether its a pro or not.

Grrrr.

sorta feels like going back to GF2MX where you could get basically anything from 166/166 MHz to 200/400 MHz

 

[mczak]

There exist GF4MX (GF4MX420, GF4MX440SE sometimes) with 64bit memory bus as well, and some radeon 9000 have a 64bit memory bus only too. So this isn't that surprising. Though I'm not sure who buys that since they are only slightly cheaper but a lot slower, so if you really want to save money better get a rage 128

 

[stevem]

Low profile PCBs (& some PCI variants) typically have one of the data banks excised resulting in a 64-bit memory bus. Performance is poor, but sometimes there's little choice...

 

[Arun]

In a not-so-related note...

http://www.leadtek.com/graphics/a340tdh128/a340tdh128.htm

For nearly the same price as a normal 5ns 128MB 128-bit FX 5200, you're getting a 4ns one I'm sure the core is quite overclockable as well.
Sure seems like one of the best 5200s to me. If someone wanted a $109 card, I think I'd suggest this one.

Although once you get at $129, the Radeon 9600 NP will be a clear winner...


Uttar

 

[MuFu]

There exist GF4MX (GF4MX420, GF4MX440SE sometimes) with 64bit memory bus as well...

It's exactly the same design, so that makes sense.

The 275Mhz limit is caused by the 5600 PCB, BTW. I would guess the 5600 Ultra is capable of 800Mhz mem clock without too much trouble: the board is about 50% more expensive.

MuFu.

 

[Tahir2]

In a not-so-related note...

http://www.leadtek.com/graphics/a340tdh128/a340tdh128.htm

For nearly the same price as a normal 5ns 128MB 128-bit FX 5200, you're getting a 4ns one I'm sure the core is quite overclockable as well.
Sure seems like one of the best 5200s to me. If someone wanted a $109 card, I think I'd suggest this one.

Although once you get at $129, the Radeon 9600 NP will be a clear winner...


Uttar

I got one for testing purposes and guess what.. any kind of overclock on the MEMORY results in Powerstrip hanging.

 

[Lezmaka]

In a not-so-related note...

http://www.leadtek.com/graphics/a340tdh128/a340tdh128.htm

For nearly the same price as a normal 5ns 128MB 128-bit FX 5200, you're getting a 4ns one I'm sure the core is quite overclockable as well.
Sure seems like one of the best 5200s to me. If someone wanted a $109 card, I think I'd suggest this one.

Although once you get at $129, the Radeon 9600 NP will be a clear winner...


Uttar

I got one for testing purposes and guess what.. any kind of overclock on the MEMORY results in Powerstrip hanging.

Have you tried any other way of overclocking it? Like through the drivers themselves? Considering Powerstrip 3.30 was released about 3 months before the 5200 was announced, it's not really surprising it doesn't work.

 

[Ante P]

Considering Powerstrip 3.30 was released about 3 months before the 5200 was announced, it's not really surprising it doesn't work.

There's a new beta of PS every now and then, I think the latest one added 9800, FX 5200 and FX 5600 support.

 

[Tahir2]

right u r guys
coolbits allows it but it was a rather poor memory oc with the card i have.