The situation is explained in the chat log.
I would like advice from you guys.
I've censored the stuff so no one can be found out.
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(11:52:34 PM) A: 4/5 not bad numbers
(11:52:46 PM) J: ?
(11:52:57 PM) K.I.L.E.R: how do I add people to this convo?
(11:53:06 PM) A: already done kruno ;p
(11:53:21 PM) K.I.L.E.R: I want to add some friends too (they aren't going to "University")
(11:53:32 PM) A: no kruno ;p
(11:53:41 PM) K.I.L.E.R:
(11:54:07 PM) JJ left the room.
(11:54:24 PM) A: everyone like "Bad Female Lecturer"'s email
(11:54:32 PM) K.I.L.E.R: yer
(11:54:34 PM) K.I.L.E.R: seen that
(11:54:36 PM) J: meh
(11:54:38 PM) K.I.L.E.R: what's up with the CC?
(11:54:51 PM) J: 7.2MB/s..........
(11:54:58 PM) A: i love how she points me to the student charter, which is more ammo for me against the department really
(11:54:59 PM) J: 18.2GB file........
(11:55:15 PM) A: what the hell are you downloading...
(11:55:20 PM) K.I.L.E.R: student charter (I read it) is about obedience
(11:55:23 PM) K.I.L.E.R: like we live in Korea
(11:55:26 PM) K.I.L.E.R: or something
(11:55:42 PM) K.I.L.E.R: to be honest you can argue the student charter against her
(11:55:46 PM) J: I wish I was gettin that speed online (it's crossover between desktop and laptop)
(11:55:51 PM) K.I.L.E.R: it has stuff the university is required to do
(11:56:09 PM) A: i know, and they have violated it in a few places ;p
(11:56:37 PM) J: A u talked to JJ yesterday/today?
(11:56:48 PM) A: no
(11:57:00 PM) A: well only via email on unrelated issues
(11:57:09 PM) J: hmm ok
(11:57:25 PM) J: well I talked to him yesterday about the project........... and we're thinking of something...
(11:57:36 PM) A: go on
(11:57:55 PM) JJ entered the room.
(11:58:18 PM) A: pointing me to the student charter was just moronic of her..
(11:58:31 PM) A: it demonstrates her lack of understanding of the issues we are raising
(11:59:05 PM) A: heck the first two points are It is expected that students will: 1. engage actively with the educational, social and cultural life of the University; 2. be fully committed to their own learning including taking responsibility for monitoring their own progress;
(11:59:14 PM) J: We think "Bad Female Lecturer"'s problem with me and Sonya was her way of getting back at "our group" since it started after ur emails... and ur not in her class..... so she took it out on me (as team leader) and Sonya as member in my group assignment.
(11:59:29 PM) JJ: i think she did it because you were ignoring her so i can understand it in the context of ytou not accepting her answer.
(11:59:55 PM) A: no the problems started before i emailed her
(12:00:13 AM) A: i first emailed her less than 2 weeks ago
(12:00:15 AM) JJ: if you keep not accepting a persons answer when they give it they will go off in all sorts of directions, none of them good.
(12:00:27 AM) JJ: trhis is not worth the time
(12:00:33 AM) JJ: we got our no
(12:00:49 AM) JJ: and i am accepting it
(12:01:12 AM) J: I'll admit that we first had a prob with "Bad Female Lecturer" b4 ur emails (last thursday b4 the break).... but it only became serious (she not wanting to look at assignment, etc) after ur email.
(12:01:12 AM) A: yeah, just stupid really, why arnt they accpeting that we as students want to learn and not supporting it is beyond me
(12:01:13 AM) K.I.L.E.R: JJ makes a very good point. This will only piss her off more.
(12:01:39 AM) JJ: if we keep escalating this it will lead to alienation by other staff members i suspect, not worth it
(12:02:01 AM) JJ: not just her but other staff members, ones who may count elsewhere in our course
(12:02:07 AM) J: " alienation by other staff members" is why she cc'd everyone in on it.
(12:02:38 AM) JJ: yes and it will work if we keep argueing an answer of no
(12:02:41 AM) K.I.L.E.R: want to talk to her about the alienation?
(12:03:55 AM) JJ: no i do not have time for this when we understand why perhaps it is getting out of hand and it is because we are not listening to her answers. I do not want to learn about alienation there, and it would affect me least in the group in some senses.
(12:03:59 AM) J: completely unrelated to this discussion, but just a warning to everyone here: PLEASE do not install Norton Antivirus 2006... it f@#ked my laptop badly.
(12:04:22 AM) A: i havnt had a prob with nortans
(12:04:30 AM) JJ: i'm running it on many machines , ytou are unlucky
(12:05:09 AM) K.I.L.E.R: I use AntiVir
(12:05:42 AM) A: cause i like to be diffrent i use viri to protect myself from antivirus software
(12:05:48 AM) J: heh... wow. that makes 4 against 1. ok it must be me. I put it on yesterday morning, uninstalled it last nite, and still trying to fix things. going to reformat....... cuz it screwed up my networking somehow (it had it's only firewall thingy which I disabled and UNINSTALLED but it's still got parts resident in memory).
(12:06:36 AM) JJ: any staff member would be nervous by a student who complains and takes them to task on every situation, at the moment we are probably perceived as a group of that by staff, remember some other members have told us we have a "strong minded" group so maybe some of them have looked at us somewhere else in the game.
(12:07:22 AM) JJ: I just don't think making a lectureres life hard will ever yield better marks, and it will force a much harder path i reckon
(12:08:28 AM) A: pain in ze ass though, we are there cause we wanna learn yet they want us to do vegi modules
(12:09:04 AM) J: Regarding project: "Awesome teacher"s son's soccer club does not have a website at all and wants a dynamic website developed. (some cgi/db backend). He's the sponser/supervisor. I think it's a bit hard for a group of 4.... but think we could take it up?
(12:09:05 AM) A: bah, oh well, guess its time to start desigining the db for the project
(12:10:22 AM) K.I.L.E.R: CGI? who does that nemore?
(12:10:32 AM) A: no one
(12:10:33 AM) A: ;p
(12:10:47 AM) K.I.L.E.R: lets change the requirements
(12:10:49 AM) J: when I say CGI i refer to any server side scripting language.
(12:10:52 AM) K.I.L.E.R: or ask to have them changed
(12:10:56 AM) K.I.L.E.R: oh
(12:11:17 AM) JJ: yes so we should learn the bigger lesson here. Do what they want, making life harder for them will hurt us more than them because we expect them to issue a piece of paper at the end of it. I have learnt to be compliant, yes sir no sir three bags full etc. the lesson is that we should just do the school work, no more no less, and no creativity or enthusium.
(12:11:38 AM) JJ: just what they ask
(12:12:01 AM) JJ: it is boring and it is less fun but oh well that is what they want...
(12:12:22 AM) A: daddy says dice are evil, we just move one space at a time
(12:12:25 AM) A: its less fun that way
(12:12:31 AM) K.I.L.E.R: lol
(12:12:45 AM) JJ: it is also so much easier anyway so why are we complaining.
(12:12:52 AM) J: geez, JJ u'd make a great spokesperson with the "NSOT" campaign
(12:13:14 AM) JJ: yeah the new school of compliance
(12:13:25 AM) JJ: comply or be executed
(12:13:25 AM) K.I.L.E.R: lol
(12:13:36 AM) JJ: kinda like "University" lol
(12:13:38 AM) K.I.L.E.R: file a complaint?
(12:13:46 AM) A: it will make a good smear campaign at the end of next year
(12:13:51 AM) A: ;p
(12:13:53 AM) J: "they beat us into submission"
(12:14:12 AM) JJ: yeah they used "Awesomely Horrible Teacher" as the tool to do that.
(12:14:19 AM) A: "my nostriles were raped by all of their insessent overpowering thinking"
(12:14:22 AM) J: No complaints........ at least while we are still studying their.
(12:14:26 AM) J: *there
(12:14:53 AM) JJ: they unleashed her on a class. Yeah i do not have time for complaints, there are many other things in life i would rather spend my time doing...
(12:15:17 AM) JJ: the complaints are what will get the teachers all on edge.
(12:16:43 AM) JJ: so i suggest a cessation on complaints until we have com[pl;eted the course, then complain. It would also be more effective to be issueing the complaint after having achieved the piece of paper, more credibility should you still reckon the complaint is needed.
(12:18:22 AM) J: Is everyone willing to do an easy dummy project to make them happy (website), and do the timetable stuff on the side in our own time?
(12:18:39 AM) A: yes, im all for it
(12:19:00 AM) A: i might go back to learning C after this ep of family guy
(12:19:01 AM) JJ: i'm in
(12:19:08 AM) K.I.L.E.R: good idea
(12:19:09 AM) JJ: lol
(12:19:23 AM) J: learning C? I thought u knew that...?
(12:19:50 AM) A: i learnt it for embedded level stuff
(12:19:59 AM) A: im relearning it and doing C++ at the same time
(12:20:08 AM) J: ic
(12:20:18 AM) J: (pun not intended)
(12:20:48 AM) JJ: i missed it anyway, too slow
(12:21:32 AM) J: if we do a website...... we'd h ave plenty of time for our stuff. I'd actually be focusing on our stuff and just doing the minimum required for the website.
(12:22:22 AM) JJ: we will all have other subjects at the same time so see how they go, it may be a bit more than you think by the time the other subjects are added in etc
(12:22:45 AM) J: I can knock up a decent looking static SITE in a couple of hours. Dynamic (depending on complexity) could take up to a week (single handed). I'm sure 4 people would take a yr to do it...
(12:23:09 AM) JJ: lmao
(12:23:22 AM) K.I.L.E.R: I could see that
(12:23:30 AM) K.I.L.E.R: I'll spend half a year for 10 lines of HTML
(12:23:44 AM) J: well dont forget, 4 subjects per semester.... project is 2 of them (project & english). So you only really have 2 subjects to worry about, apart from the website.
(12:23:52 AM) JJ: even given a year any website i knock up i wouldn't class as good, just acceoptable.
(12:23:54 AM) A: yes well there is interperson communciation, sending each other the code... and after all the quantuam electro static phase varaience is out due to sunspots it will take a week to transfer a few bytes
(12:24:32 AM) JJ: perhaps
(12:25:26 AM) K.I.L.E.R: (12:24:00 AM) Sir Alex: yeah work for cash in hand jobs
(12:24:06 AM) Emeraude Hime: lol
(12:24:12 AM) Sir Alex: eg asian computer shops
(12:24:14 AM) Emeraude Hime: oh
(12:24:16 AM) Emeraude Hime: lol
(12:24:35 AM) Emeraude Hime: I couldn't imagine a pimp asking for a TFN
(12:25:43 AM) K.I.L.E.R: TFN = Tax file number
(12:25:47 AM) JJ: lol
(12:25:52 AM) J: Don't forget that since we are from a forward looking highly regarded environmental conscious uni, we need to recycle all our electrons too!
(12:26:02 AM) J: geez this thing slowed down like shit
(12:26:12 AM) K.I.L.E.R: when I pasted the text?
(12:26:25 AM) J: no when my download completed
(12:26:54 AM) K.I.L.E.R: I've just sent off a nasty e-mail to "Bad Female Lecturer"
(12:27:02 AM) K.I.L.E.R: I called her a bitch
(12:27:03 AM) K.I.L.E.R: lol
(12:27:09 AM) K.I.L.E.R: that'd teach her
(12:27:26 AM) J: err gee, thx Kruno
(12:27:36 AM) K.I.L.E.R: dont worry it was from me
(12:27:37 AM) J: what did I tell u b4 about SHOWING US the email and getting aproval first?
(12:27:57 AM) J: cut n paste it here
(12:28:28 AM) K.I.L.E.R: "Dear J, my jokes may be bad but please don't take them personally. Thanks"
(12:28:39 AM) JJ: lol
(12:28:44 AM) JJ: sick puppy
(12:28:44 AM) J: Why did u call "Bad Female Lecturer" J???? omg...
(12:29:02 AM) J: now she's going to know it was me!
(12:29:13 AM) K.I.L.E.R:
(12:29:59 AM) J: look I honestly can't be certain it was A's emails that caused her to go insane, but I don't want her going insane during our project so if we can avoid it, lets....
(12:31:30 AM) JJ: no she cc'ed the others, we can see something from that, we are pushing her into a corner, when people are cornered anything is possible, none of it good for us as students in her subject though, even another person sending her the same shit would make our life hard as she would just take it out on all students it would appear.
(12:32:37 AM) K.I.L.E.R: she isn't supposed to take it out on us
(12:32:41 AM) J: not very professional to take it out on others........
(12:32:55 AM) K.I.L.E.R: Is there any way we can cool her down so she doesn't take it out on us?
(12:33:13 AM) JJ: so wait until we all do not have her for anything before complaining about her
(12:33:14 AM) JJ: ie after completion of all subjects she is involved in delivering to us
(12:33:23 AM) JJ: at which point i am sure we would have bigger and better things to do anyway hopefully
(12:33:26 AM) J: not really, but we can avoid causing more probs
(12:33:36 AM) K.I.L.E.R: so she will hold a grudge against us?
(12:33:39 AM) K.I.L.E.R: next year?
(12:34:00 AM) JJ: yes i can go and see them to accept a certain amount of responsibility and smooth the waters, no problems
(12:34:23 AM) JJ: i think it would be wise to do this at this stage
(12:34:32 AM) K.I.L.E.R: smoothing waters isn't an issue but lets do that much later until we see who has the final say
(12:34:39 AM) J: not if we go in and say "hey, we thought about it and ur right. We r going to do a "University" project now. SORRY for all the probs we caused, thanks for being a GREAT teacher and TEACHING US that we should find a REAL sponser like "University"". ;-)
(12:35:23 AM) J: should we do "Doctor Phil's" project?
(12:36:08 AM) JJ: and i feel kinda bad because i got everyone hyped on this idea which is now turning out to be more trouble than i had thought, sorry guys, however i was going to go up to the group of cc'd lecturers in addition to HS to explain the whole thing.
I would like advice from you guys.
I've censored the stuff so no one can be found out.
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(11:52:34 PM) A: 4/5 not bad numbers
(11:52:46 PM) J: ?
(11:52:57 PM) K.I.L.E.R: how do I add people to this convo?
(11:53:06 PM) A: already done kruno ;p
(11:53:21 PM) K.I.L.E.R: I want to add some friends too (they aren't going to "University")
(11:53:32 PM) A: no kruno ;p
(11:53:41 PM) K.I.L.E.R:
(11:54:07 PM) JJ left the room.
(11:54:24 PM) A: everyone like "Bad Female Lecturer"'s email
(11:54:32 PM) K.I.L.E.R: yer
(11:54:34 PM) K.I.L.E.R: seen that
(11:54:36 PM) J: meh
(11:54:38 PM) K.I.L.E.R: what's up with the CC?
(11:54:51 PM) J: 7.2MB/s..........
(11:54:58 PM) A: i love how she points me to the student charter, which is more ammo for me against the department really
(11:54:59 PM) J: 18.2GB file........
(11:55:15 PM) A: what the hell are you downloading...
(11:55:20 PM) K.I.L.E.R: student charter (I read it) is about obedience
(11:55:23 PM) K.I.L.E.R: like we live in Korea
(11:55:26 PM) K.I.L.E.R: or something
(11:55:42 PM) K.I.L.E.R: to be honest you can argue the student charter against her
(11:55:46 PM) J: I wish I was gettin that speed online
(it's crossover between desktop and laptop)(11:55:51 PM) K.I.L.E.R: it has stuff the university is required to do
(11:56:09 PM) A: i know, and they have violated it in a few places ;p
(11:56:37 PM) J: A u talked to JJ yesterday/today?
(11:56:48 PM) A: no
(11:57:00 PM) A: well only via email on unrelated issues
(11:57:09 PM) J: hmm ok
(11:57:25 PM) J: well I talked to him yesterday about the project........... and we're thinking of something...
(11:57:36 PM) A: go on
(11:57:55 PM) JJ entered the room.
(11:58:18 PM) A: pointing me to the student charter was just moronic of her..
(11:58:31 PM) A: it demonstrates her lack of understanding of the issues we are raising
(11:59:05 PM) A: heck the first two points are It is expected that students will: 1. engage actively with the educational, social and cultural life of the University; 2. be fully committed to their own learning including taking responsibility for monitoring their own progress;
(11:59:14 PM) J: We think "Bad Female Lecturer"'s problem with me and Sonya was her way of getting back at "our group" since it started after ur emails... and ur not in her class..... so she took it out on me (as team leader) and Sonya as member in my group assignment.
(11:59:29 PM) JJ: i think she did it because you were ignoring her so i can understand it in the context of ytou not accepting her answer.
(11:59:55 PM) A: no the problems started before i emailed her
(12:00:13 AM) A: i first emailed her less than 2 weeks ago
(12:00:15 AM) JJ: if you keep not accepting a persons answer when they give it they will go off in all sorts of directions, none of them good.
(12:00:27 AM) JJ: trhis is not worth the time
(12:00:33 AM) JJ: we got our no
(12:00:49 AM) JJ: and i am accepting it
(12:01:12 AM) J: I'll admit that we first had a prob with "Bad Female Lecturer" b4 ur emails (last thursday b4 the break).... but it only became serious (she not wanting to look at assignment, etc) after ur email.
(12:01:12 AM) A: yeah, just stupid really, why arnt they accpeting that we as students want to learn and not supporting it is beyond me
(12:01:13 AM) K.I.L.E.R: JJ makes a very good point. This will only piss her off more.
(12:01:39 AM) JJ: if we keep escalating this it will lead to alienation by other staff members i suspect, not worth it
(12:02:01 AM) JJ: not just her but other staff members, ones who may count elsewhere in our course
(12:02:07 AM) J: " alienation by other staff members" is why she cc'd everyone in on it.
(12:02:38 AM) JJ: yes and it will work if we keep argueing an answer of no
(12:02:41 AM) K.I.L.E.R: want to talk to her about the alienation?
(12:03:55 AM) JJ: no i do not have time for this when we understand why perhaps it is getting out of hand and it is because we are not listening to her answers. I do not want to learn about alienation there, and it would affect me least in the group in some senses.
(12:03:59 AM) J: completely unrelated to this discussion, but just a warning to everyone here: PLEASE do not install Norton Antivirus 2006... it f@#ked my laptop badly.
(12:04:22 AM) A: i havnt had a prob with nortans
(12:04:30 AM) JJ: i'm running it on many machines , ytou are unlucky
(12:05:09 AM) K.I.L.E.R: I use AntiVir
(12:05:42 AM) A: cause i like to be diffrent i use viri to protect myself from antivirus software
(12:05:48 AM) J: heh... wow. that makes 4 against 1. ok it must be me. I put it on yesterday morning, uninstalled it last nite, and still trying to fix things. going to reformat....... cuz it screwed up my networking somehow (it had it's only firewall thingy which I disabled and UNINSTALLED but it's still got parts resident in memory).
(12:06:36 AM) JJ: any staff member would be nervous by a student who complains and takes them to task on every situation, at the moment we are probably perceived as a group of that by staff, remember some other members have told us we have a "strong minded" group so maybe some of them have looked at us somewhere else in the game.
(12:07:22 AM) JJ: I just don't think making a lectureres life hard will ever yield better marks, and it will force a much harder path i reckon
(12:08:28 AM) A: pain in ze ass though, we are there cause we wanna learn yet they want us to do vegi modules
(12:09:04 AM) J: Regarding project: "Awesome teacher"s son's soccer club does not have a website at all and wants a dynamic website developed. (some cgi/db backend). He's the sponser/supervisor. I think it's a bit hard for a group of 4.... but think we could take it up?
(12:09:05 AM) A: bah, oh well, guess its time to start desigining the db for the project
(12:10:22 AM) K.I.L.E.R: CGI? who does that nemore?
(12:10:32 AM) A: no one
(12:10:33 AM) A: ;p
(12:10:47 AM) K.I.L.E.R: lets change the requirements
(12:10:49 AM) J: when I say CGI i refer to any server side scripting language.
(12:10:52 AM) K.I.L.E.R: or ask to have them changed
(12:10:56 AM) K.I.L.E.R: oh
(12:11:17 AM) JJ: yes so we should learn the bigger lesson here. Do what they want, making life harder for them will hurt us more than them because we expect them to issue a piece of paper at the end of it. I have learnt to be compliant, yes sir no sir three bags full etc. the lesson is that we should just do the school work, no more no less, and no creativity or enthusium.
(12:11:38 AM) JJ: just what they ask
(12:12:01 AM) JJ: it is boring and it is less fun but oh well that is what they want...
(12:12:22 AM) A: daddy says dice are evil, we just move one space at a time
(12:12:25 AM) A: its less fun that way
(12:12:31 AM) K.I.L.E.R: lol
(12:12:45 AM) JJ: it is also so much easier anyway so why are we complaining.
(12:12:52 AM) J: geez, JJ u'd make a great spokesperson with the "NSOT" campaign
(12:13:14 AM) JJ: yeah the new school of compliance
(12:13:25 AM) JJ: comply or be executed
(12:13:25 AM) K.I.L.E.R: lol
(12:13:36 AM) JJ: kinda like "University" lol
(12:13:38 AM) K.I.L.E.R: file a complaint?
(12:13:46 AM) A: it will make a good smear campaign at the end of next year
(12:13:51 AM) A: ;p
(12:13:53 AM) J: "they beat us into submission"
(12:14:12 AM) JJ: yeah they used "Awesomely Horrible Teacher" as the tool to do that.
(12:14:19 AM) A: "my nostriles were raped by all of their insessent overpowering thinking"
(12:14:22 AM) J: No complaints........ at least while we are still studying their.
(12:14:26 AM) J: *there
(12:14:53 AM) JJ: they unleashed her on a class. Yeah i do not have time for complaints, there are many other things in life i would rather spend my time doing...
(12:15:17 AM) JJ: the complaints are what will get the teachers all on edge.
(12:16:43 AM) JJ: so i suggest a cessation on complaints until we have com[pl;eted the course, then complain. It would also be more effective to be issueing the complaint after having achieved the piece of paper, more credibility should you still reckon the complaint is needed.
(12:18:22 AM) J: Is everyone willing to do an easy dummy project to make them happy (website), and do the timetable stuff on the side in our own time?
(12:18:39 AM) A: yes, im all for it
(12:19:00 AM) A: i might go back to learning C after this ep of family guy
(12:19:01 AM) JJ: i'm in
(12:19:08 AM) K.I.L.E.R: good idea
(12:19:09 AM) JJ: lol
(12:19:23 AM) J: learning C? I thought u knew that...?
(12:19:50 AM) A: i learnt it for embedded level stuff
(12:19:59 AM) A: im relearning it and doing C++ at the same time
(12:20:08 AM) J: ic
(12:20:18 AM) J: (pun not intended)
(12:20:48 AM) JJ:
i missed it anyway, too slow (12:21:32 AM) J: if we do a website...... we'd h ave plenty of time for our stuff. I'd actually be focusing on our stuff and just doing the minimum required for the website.
(12:22:22 AM) JJ: we will all have other subjects at the same time so see how they go, it may be a bit more than you think by the time the other subjects are added in etc
(12:22:45 AM) J: I can knock up a decent looking static SITE in a couple of hours. Dynamic (depending on complexity) could take up to a week (single handed). I'm sure 4 people would take a yr to do it...
(12:23:09 AM) JJ: lmao
(12:23:22 AM) K.I.L.E.R: I could see that
(12:23:30 AM) K.I.L.E.R: I'll spend half a year for 10 lines of HTML
(12:23:44 AM) J: well dont forget, 4 subjects per semester.... project is 2 of them (project & english). So you only really have 2 subjects to worry about, apart from the website.
(12:23:52 AM) JJ: even given a year any website i knock up i wouldn't class as good, just acceoptable.
(12:23:54 AM) A: yes well there is interperson communciation, sending each other the code... and after all the quantuam electro static phase varaience is out due to sunspots it will take a week to transfer a few bytes
(12:24:32 AM) JJ: perhaps
(12:25:26 AM) K.I.L.E.R: (12:24:00 AM) Sir Alex: yeah work for cash in hand jobs
(12:24:06 AM) Emeraude Hime: lol
(12:24:12 AM) Sir Alex: eg asian computer shops
(12:24:14 AM) Emeraude Hime: oh
(12:24:16 AM) Emeraude Hime: lol
(12:24:35 AM) Emeraude Hime: I couldn't imagine a pimp asking for a TFN
(12:25:43 AM) K.I.L.E.R: TFN = Tax file number
(12:25:47 AM) JJ: lol
(12:25:52 AM) J: Don't forget that since we are from a forward looking highly regarded environmental conscious uni, we need to recycle all our electrons too!
(12:26:02 AM) J: geez this thing slowed down like shit
(12:26:12 AM) K.I.L.E.R: when I pasted the text?
(12:26:25 AM) J: no when my download completed
(12:26:54 AM) K.I.L.E.R: I've just sent off a nasty e-mail to "Bad Female Lecturer"
(12:27:02 AM) K.I.L.E.R: I called her a bitch
(12:27:03 AM) K.I.L.E.R: lol
(12:27:09 AM) K.I.L.E.R: that'd teach her
(12:27:26 AM) J: err gee, thx Kruno
(12:27:36 AM) K.I.L.E.R: dont worry it was from me
(12:27:37 AM) J: what did I tell u b4 about SHOWING US the email and getting aproval first?
(12:27:57 AM) J: cut n paste it here
(12:28:28 AM) K.I.L.E.R: "Dear J, my jokes may be bad but please don't take them personally. Thanks"
(12:28:39 AM) JJ: lol
(12:28:44 AM) JJ: sick puppy
(12:28:44 AM) J: Why did u call "Bad Female Lecturer" J???? omg...
(12:29:02 AM) J: now she's going to know it was me!
(12:29:13 AM) K.I.L.E.R:
(12:29:59 AM) J: look I honestly can't be certain it was A's emails that caused her to go insane, but I don't want her going insane during our project so if we can avoid it, lets....
(12:31:30 AM) JJ: no she cc'ed the others, we can see something from that, we are pushing her into a corner, when people are cornered anything is possible, none of it good for us as students in her subject though, even another person sending her the same shit would make our life hard as she would just take it out on all students it would appear.
(12:32:37 AM) K.I.L.E.R: she isn't supposed to take it out on us
(12:32:41 AM) J: not very professional to take it out on others........
(12:32:55 AM) K.I.L.E.R: Is there any way we can cool her down so she doesn't take it out on us?
(12:33:13 AM) JJ: so wait until we all do not have her for anything before complaining about her
(12:33:14 AM) JJ: ie after completion of all subjects she is involved in delivering to us
(12:33:23 AM) JJ: at which point i am sure we would have bigger and better things to do anyway hopefully
(12:33:26 AM) J: not really, but we can avoid causing more probs
(12:33:36 AM) K.I.L.E.R: so she will hold a grudge against us?
(12:33:39 AM) K.I.L.E.R: next year?
(12:34:00 AM) JJ: yes i can go and see them to accept a certain amount of responsibility and smooth the waters, no problems
(12:34:23 AM) JJ: i think it would be wise to do this at this stage
(12:34:32 AM) K.I.L.E.R: smoothing waters isn't an issue but lets do that much later until we see who has the final say
(12:34:39 AM) J: not if we go in and say "hey, we thought about it and ur right. We r going to do a "University" project now. SORRY for all the probs we caused, thanks for being a GREAT teacher and TEACHING US that we should find a REAL sponser like "University"". ;-)
(12:35:23 AM) J: should we do "Doctor Phil's" project?
(12:36:08 AM) JJ: and i feel kinda bad because i got everyone hyped on this idea which is now turning out to be more trouble than i had thought, sorry guys, however i was going to go up to the group of cc'd lecturers in addition to HS to explain the whole thing.
